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Rti second appeal vs Complaint which is best option
Prasad GLN replied to Skhanamr's question in Ask for RTI Support
What exactly you require ? If you require your answer sheets of a particular subject, when there is a prescribed time frame and format of application, as per laid down norms you ought to seek such copies within time frame, as retention period of such records has to be adhered. You may file another RTI Application and seek information as follows: Information solicited: 1)Please provide present status of answer sheets of ..........year...........semester...................subject (Whether they were retained or destroyed)) 2.If the answer sheets were destroyed, please provide such copy of order or record folio that shows the destruction of such record. The minimum time for getting appeal hearing is 18 months. As you are a law student Please read the remedies of complaint under Sec.18 and remedies under second appeal under Sec.19 of RTI Act. The Act is available in this forum tab and in websites of all public authorities. If any one wants the only remedy is going for second appeal, as second appeal alone gets the remedy of information, whereas complaint is only for all other remedies except information. Instead of filing RTI and making such unsuccessful attempts of gone /past, forget and reappear as the exam is within 6 months. - Today
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Transparency and accountability involving larger public interest are the objectives of RTI Act. Once the application is filed before public authority, it is not a confidential document, but a public document and must be made available for scrutiny by citizen, as this is not personal information. By providing the copy of the application based on which a compassionate appointment was preferred over others the extent of deviations in actions of authority can be determined by the citizen. Any information which PIO thinks is personal information that may amount to invasion of privacy (AADHAR, MOBILE No etc) can be severed from application. PIO can provide that information by covering that personal information by covering with white liquid or through colouring it black etc., The simple guidance for PIO is that all information available in material form as a public record if not exempted under Sec.8 (1) must be provided. If PIO wishes to deny information, he is supposed to mention such clause and with justification for denial on such clause of exemption. Applications are not confidential documents or having a personal angle. The status of living or dead makes no difference in providing a public record in custody of the authority. (Honestly there are some clouds in giving such appointment either to father or daughter as father's caste is ST and daughter's caste is BC, one must have provided a fake certificate and it is certainly the father that must have provided such certificate. However once a bonafide certificate was submitted by applicant, unless that certificate is cancelled by appropriate orders, it amounts to a bonafide document. Compassionate appointment may be different and depends on practice and if a certain shop is reserved under ST Category, even appointing a BC in that category may amount to violation irrespective of relationship.)
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Sir/Madam A Fair Price Shop dealer was appointed under ST Category earlier and has expired in the year 2012. Later His daughter has been appointed as the dealer on compassionate grounds and at the time of her appointment, the said women has submitted her Caste Certificate as "BC". Now another dealer is asking for the prescribed application format submitted by, both the father and daughter, which is required for grant of Authorization required to run the Fair Price Shop, under the RTI Act. Here the question is the said prescribed format contains the persona details of the applicant such as Aadhaar Number, Mobile Number, Address, Caste etc., Can this information be provided to the applicant, without the knowledge of the Fair Price Shop Dealer. Further, can the Office provide the details of the Fair Price Shop Dealers, who is now dead. Please guide. Vikram Kumar Saathiri
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Sir, This is regarding the unlawful activity of PIO of New Delhi Municipal Council, New Delhi, wherein instead providing information to applicant he directs to information seekers to come to office and inspect the files and obtain the documents after payment. FAA authority not given any reply, to the first appeals, therefore, second appeals were filed before the CIC, NewDelhi during months February to December 2018, bringing the facts before the CIC Therefore, before submitting my written statement before information commissioner, I want to be sure that my Appeals are as per provisions of RTI act. Since staff in PIO office wasn't cooperative because of their misdeeds and trying to conceal the documents, and same also been brought in appeals/complaint. Regards. -
Can file RTI against Municipal Councillor
Sunil Ahya replied to AmitGahchand's question in Ask for RTI Support
What is the exact information that you would like to seek? - Yesterday
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@NCPCR_ @hydcitypolice Operation Smile/ Operation Muskaan is lacking in @shobegumpet premises, @DeccanChronicle We… https://t.co/rb7QAiPhWM
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Rti second appeal vs Complaint which is best option
Skhanamr posted a question in Ask for RTI Support
Hello all, I have given my LL.B 5th sem. exam and after declaration of result i was not satisfied (GOT ATKT in 1 sub. But my paper was good) with my result so I fill an rti to provide photocopy of my answesheet but they refused by saying that university will only give answercopy by filling their on answer copy request form other then they can't. Also the form should be fill under 1 week declaration of result. After this I fill 1st appeal but the result was same. Now what should I have to do, I know you will say that go to 2nd apeal. But what is more beneficial in my case Complaint under section 18 or 2nd apeal under 19. Actually I have re-exam after 6 months and it takes almost 1 to 2 year disclose of my appeal. So what is best option What is best option for me for fast result appeal or complaint -
Unmanned ship towed at MPT Goa Port.
damodard29 replied to damodard29's question in Ask for RTI Support
Sir, as requested already is been done, tmmrw I am going to have press conference since its looks port authorities are involved in illegalties towing the unmanned ship at Goa Port which has rejected in karnataka state pollution control board to berth their ports since its in precarious condition. Sent from my vivo 1606 using RTI INDIA mobile app -
Can you just inform the reasons for not availing the opportunity of inspection, (Had it been availed , it should have been given strong ground for your second appeal ? I do not know SIC, but I am surprised that the hearing date is 23-9-2019. It appears to me that you have sought guidance in defending second appeal hearing and not against PIO response. You have sought guidance on 14th and on 15th informing that second appeal hearing is on 23rd.
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Thanks sir, I am in agreement with your opinion, and on same line first appeal filed with FAA, but no response was received from FAA, therefore, 2 nd Appeal was filled on same ground, and hearing date is 23.9.19.😃
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Sec 8(1)(j) is VERY CLEAR ANY INFORMATION WHICH HAS NO PUBLIC INTEREST AND DISCLOSURE OF WHICH WILL ENDANGER PRIVACY OF THE PERSON CANNOT BE DISCLOSD .PLEASE ESTABLISH IT IS IN PUBLIC INTEREST WHOLLY
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DEPARTMENTS ARE GIVING PAY SCALES OF EACH CADRE/POST AND NOT INDIVIDUAL SALARIES WHEN STAFF ARE IN HUNDREDS
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If appellate authority does not dispose off the first appeal
koteswararaonerella replied to Prabodh S's topic in Discussions on RTI
APPEAL DISPOSAL TIME IS 45 DAYS FROM DATE OF RECEIPT BY FA GIVE ONE WEEK EXTRA FOR TRANSIT DELAY AND FILE 2ND APPEAL NO MORE WAITING -
Retired employee will come under rti
koteswararaonerella replied to Rajeev bolleddu's topic in Discussions on RTI
Eventhpough Prasad ji want to put it clearly your querry is NOT MAKING SENSE AS YOU READ IT .PLEASE WRITE CLEARLY EVEN IN HINDI FOR CLARIFICATIONS -
Private person's shooting vedio of theTSRTC DRIVER regarding.
koteswararaonerella replied to M.A.Azeem's topic in Discussions on RTI
Suggestion of Sri GLN Prasad is opt You use your Union leaders to find out as to why you are kept under spare and you must also know that you can not establish link between pvt person who took your video and the Depot officer as it is difficult job -
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Application at revenue office was rejected stating 3rd party and called that person and consent was not given by her.
koteswararaonerella replied to akshay6900's topic in Discussions on RTI
If you have evidence to the effect you have stated you can file police complaint as well as it amounts to cheating.secondly you ask for copies of income certificates given by Revenue dept which are NOT THIRD PARTY. U/S 11 DOCUMENTS SUBMITTED BY APPLICANT ARE ONLY 3RD PARTY -
Focus only on information. If you feel that information is urgent and important, do avail every opportunity thrown to you without further arguments. If you wanted to go for appeal go for first appeal stating the following grounds. First Appeal dt........................under RTI Act Before: Against: Brief facts: Appellant solicited information in the form of a letter for queries No.............and PIO instead of providing information vide his letter dt.............directed appellant for inspection. Grounds for Appeal: As per Sec. 7 (9) "information shall ordinarily be provided in the form in which it is sought unless it would disproportionately. divert the resources of public authority or would be detrimental to the safety of preservation of the record.". The same was reiterated in several CIC decisions.. As the information was not provided in the form it is requested, and PIO has chosen his own form and directed appellant to come for inspection, without caring for the convenience of appellant, the response of PIO is not proper and not satisfactory. PRAYER: Appellant prays for directions to PIO to provide that information as solicited in application. Appellant
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Unmanned ship towed at MPT Goa Port.
Prasad GLN replied to damodard29's question in Ask for RTI Support
You are an expert, if you have not received proper response within 48 hours from CPIO, go for first appeal, and then to CIC under life or liberty clause. Make a written complaint to Central Ministry of Shipping and Home dept as grievance in their on line portal. -
Unsatisfactory response by CPIO & FAA
Prasad GLN replied to per1589's question in Ask for RTI Support
Focus on main issue. Rectify the deficiencies if any and seek pin pointed information that is available on record in the form of a material. In case of pensions, it amounts to life or liberty clause and both PIO and FAA must dispose the applications within 48 hours. It may be true that PIO has provided incorrect, false or misleading information on receipt of your application and mails. Just by pointing out the mistakes and going for second appeal at this age is not correct step. Focus on your own issue, forget deviations if any by PIO and FAA as ICs do not care much for those violations as it is usual practice of PIOs to suppress from material facts to save their skin. Ignoring their deviations, if you wish to go for second appeal make it much simple and submit duly tabulated annexure in following format with your second appeal. _________________________________________________________________________________________________ Query No.............Information solicited......................Provided by PIO.............Reasons for not finding response satisfactory __1__________________2______________________________3______________________________4________________ 1 2 thereon. If you want specific clarification in this forum for more guidance on your pension issue, before going to appeal post the same in above format for proper guidance by members. -
Can file RTI against Municipal Councillor
Prasad GLN replied to AmitGahchand's question in Ask for RTI Support
Any citizen can seek such information that is available in material form from any public authority as a matter of right. Information has to be solicited from designated public information officer of that Authority. Search website of the corporation and find out relevant PIO and enclose laid down fees with such application as stated in RTI segment of their website. -
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