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shrikant M.

What is 30 day limit?

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shrikant M.

Hello,

Dear friends,

 

I asked information on daily report of my previous RTIs, PIO's reply, officals who worked on my RTIs, dispatch register, & all related things to same PIO. He transferred to another PIO. My earlier RTI was not complied for two reasons. 1) PIO mislead SIC that he has sent reply where I didn't get reply 2) SIC turned down my arguments saying he has dispatch register entry & it is admissible to court. I argued PIO told me he had sent by general post & on 30th day in which he asked me to unreasonable fee whose calculations not given to me & also required challan so that I can pay. SIC turned down my argument & asked me to pay in his order. Now I don't have challan thru which I can pay. So I filed another RTI to get challan. But PIO transferred to diff PIO deliberately. New PIO told me to go to dispatch clerk for inspection. Dispatch clerk told me she has only 2 registers. I asked 8 questions out of which she has no clue for other 7.

 

Point is whenever I ask information & demand for inspection, PIO forced me to take information by cost method only. PIO always denied me to give calculations or inspection of documents. FAA is always confronting with me that PIO's job finished when he sent reply. whether you like or not. I am arguing to allow me inspection & I always mentioned in my annexure A. I am demanding regularly to office for inspection whereas PIO forcing me to take his order cum reply. I am fighting for information since 9 months

 

I had made 4 RTIs recently & all of them were treated same way as above by same PIO. I wanted to file complaints under sec 18 to SIC but they are not accepting complaints & told me that they are recieving complaint only after SIC's 2nd appeal order. SIC administration are asking me to file First Appeal. i am getting lot of life threats by both PIO & FAA before. I made complaint letters to SIC but they refused me to take such letters too.

 

Note: Both PIO & FAA are involved in audit note case for many financial irregularities & improprieties. Both misused their office & powers. Both unable to close audit note for 3 years. Finally they tried to frame me in that case. When I filed RTI 9 months ago, they made recovery on paper. I got info from audit dept but audit dept didn't show me those reciepts by saying they returned back to my office. I am clerk in that office & this is MCGM case.

 

Audit dept showed me the said audit note file with lot missing & repeated docs. no links, no inward outward entries, no index in that file. Nexus between audit office & my office is seen clearly.

 

1. How may I Deal with?

2. What is 30 day limit? ...to furnish reply only & that too against my request?

3. How does audit note file look like

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MANOJ B. PATEL

Dear member,

Kindly file complaint in detail u/s 18 to the SIC by speed post.

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RAVEENA_O

Strategy is important to win every war. The Department know your limits as an employee and hence trying to avoid supply of information to you.

 

1. How may I Deal with?

2. What is 30 day limit? ...to furnish reply only & that too against my request?

3. How does audit note file look like

Please revisit the suggestions by our members in your previous threads:

 

[1] http://www.rtiindia.org/forum/137808-options-after-sic-appeal.html#post349591

 

[2] http://www.rtiindia.org/forum/138340-what-do-i-do-now-when-my.html#post351021

 

[3] http://www.rtiindia.org/forum/141664-need-help-cost-method-rti.html#post361744

 

Now, ask a friend or relative of yours residing at a different place to seek same information under RTI. Draft the request preciously seeking the exact document instead of raising queries or questioning the authority etc.

 

Secondly, file RTI Application with the PIO of Audit Organiation and seek certified copy of the Audit Report in question.

 

You can also seek inspection of Audit File from Audit Organisation under RTI.

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Prasad GLN

Once the decision was given by IC, I do not find any further scope on the issue.

Please restart the procedure by filing aplication through some other's name. (Get his signature and a different address)

There are several violations by PIO and specifically over come all the previous violations by

a)By specifically seek information only in the form of reply/response and not inspection.

2.Seek information only through Registered post.

3)Seek certified copies and specifically ask them to intimate fees through calculation sheet and demand.

 

(There is lot of confusion in queries, as to how SIC can direct you only to file only appeals and not complaints. How they can refuse complaints received through Registered post. How they have refused whether in writing or orally. Take precautions, through lessons learnt earlier and construct RTI Application in a Pucca manner)

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