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Raje1974

Information on housing for all scheme

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Raje1974

Tamilnadu Slum clearance board has constructed housing projects at two places in our district

http://www.tnscb.org/housing-for-all/

I would like to know the various schemes under which housing or tenements are granted to beneficiaries,list of applicants for free housing scheme ,number of sanctioned applications , field verification details,list of applications rejected etc

List of beneficiaries under VIP quota.

 

 

 

 

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Prasad GLN
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You can file RTI Application to  State public Information officer TSCB and can solicit the information as follows:

Information solicited:

1. Please provide the status of various projects undertaken by the board for construction of houses in the .......District.

2. Please provide the Brochure/Booklet/Circular that states the norms for allocating such houses.

3. Please provide No of applications received, accepted, rejected and finally selected, a vacant position as on 31-3-2019.

4. Please provide a copy of the beneficiaries list.

NB: Please provide that information available in electronic data through CD and if the information is in hard copies provide that hard copy.

Note to search website of TNSCB for format of RTI Application, CPIO particulars and RTI Fee mode of remittance.

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Raje1974

Thanks Sir

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Raje1974
Posted (edited)

Sir,

 

RTI Application received by PIO on 22.04.2019.

First Appeal received by FAA on 28.05.2019

Today I received reply from PIO dated 21.05.2019 stating that he cannot reply to questions in RTI application raised in impetus as per section 2(f).

Pls advice on grounds of SA.

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Prasad GLN

File another first appeal writing on top as   ADDENDUM TO FIRST APPEAL.

 

Addendum to First Appeal dt.1st Jun, 2019.

(First Appeal dt.....received by FAA on 28-05-2019, pending with FAA, FAA orders not received till to-day)

 

Against: State Public Information officer,.............................

Appellant:.........................................................

 

Brief facts: Applicant has solicited information  on ...........and it was received by SPIO on 22-04-2019

2. As SPIO has not provided information the first appeal was filed on .....................and received by FAA on 28-05-2019

3. After receipt of the first appeal, SPIO has on 21-05-2089 posted on................stated that he can not reply to question in RTI Application raised in impetus as per Sec.2f.

4.As FAA has not decided the first appeal and delivered order this addendum to be treated as the First Appeal.

GROUNDS for Appeal:  This appellant is only aware of the following section relevant to PIO.

Sec (7) (1) Subject to the provision of Sec. (2) of Section (5) to the proviso the subsection (d) of Section 6, the Central Public Information officer or state public information officer, as the case may be, on receipt of a request under sec.6 shall as expeditiously as possible and in any case within 30 days of receipt of the request.

EITHER provide the information on payment of such fee as may be prescribed           or

REJECT the request for any of the reasons specified in Sec.8 and Sec.9"

The denial should be only under Sec.8 or Sec.9  supported with such justification as per umpteen CIC/SIC decisions.

PIO has neither provided information nor denied information and invented a new clause that was not stated in RTI for denial of information, which is highly improper and shows sheer negligence of a statutory obligation.

Hence this first appeal, in the larger public interest as the information is not exempted under RTI and is available in material form.

PRAYER: Appellant prays for directions to SPIO for providing the information free of cost as expeditiously as possible. 

 

Applicant.

 

 

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Raje1974

Got the reply from PIO as follows

 

1. Please provide name ,designation and official mobile number of all the officers & employees working at SCB, Tiruvallur Division in accordance and in compliance of the provision of section 4(1)(b)(ix) of the RTI Act. in accordance and in compliance of the provision of section 4(1)(b)(ix) of the RTI Act.

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2. Please provide the Brochure/Booklet/Circular that states the norms for allocating such houses.

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3.Please provide No of applications received, accepted, rejected and finally selected, a vacant position as on 31-3-2019.

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4. Please provide a copy of the beneficiaries list.3.thumb.png.c7693b0bc4716f9c1f74a60726af4953.png

 

First Appeal and Addendum to FA are already submitted. Should I go for first Appeal or second appeal? No Reply from FA still.

PIO is providing wrong information. I called the AE and asked him for application. He said there is no vacancy and all houses are allotted

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Prasad GLN
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This reply from PIO is classic example of defiant attitude of PIO and levels of knowledge both in running his department and on RTI.Any how it is not our concern for the present.

You have to go for appeal within maximum 30 days within in receipt of FAA orders or maximum 45 days in case FAA orders are not delivered.

Now ask a friend or relative to seek information as follows:

1.Please provide number of vacant houses for allocation as on date in

2.If allotment closed, such date of final closure of allotment. and certified copy of that memo/notice/report on finalizing the list.

3.Please provide copy of such list of selected beneficiaries.....................................................

Then go for second appeal.  Certainly you can get a befitting order, if IC applies his mind.

Sorry I am not finding a link in between what you have sought guidance and on which you have sought guidance.  To refresh this is your  first query.

"I would like to know the various schemes under which housing or tenements are granted to beneficiaries,list of applicants for free housing scheme ,number of sanctioned applications , field verification details,list of applications rejected etc

This is the actual  you have solicited from PIO.

. Please provide name ,designation and official mobile number of all the officers & employees working at SCB, Tiruvallur Division in accordance and in compliance of the provision of section 4(1)(b)(ix) of the RTI Act. in accordance and in compliance of the provision of section 4(1)(b)(ix) of the RTI Act.

Time and again we advise members not to seek that information which is not useful but still some state unnecessary quotes of sections and ask those questions which are in fact not relevant not necessary, not helpful.  Honestly, what do you want to do with that employees of SCB address book list.

You can also file grievance before the TOP authority of SCB requesting him to upload the beneficiaries list in their website as the selection is not proper.

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garg0505

Above is a example how PIO/FAA stone walls the information asked for?

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Raje1974
Posted (edited)

Sir, Thanks for your guidance.

The first query was 1. Please provide the status of various projects undertaken by the board for construction of houses in the .......District. PIO has provided no information on the ongoiing constructions at various places in the district.He has skipped the query.

I  added the query employee information. Reason being,very often PIO's do not provide the name and designation in RTI reply.Someone in their office signs across it and the PIO escapes.As expected they did not provide employee information for tmy RTI application stating that employees change from time to time ( Its the office of Executive Engineer).

Lot of SCB allotment of tenements did not got to poor and needy.They have allotted Houses on basis of recommendations, bribe and to their families

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Prasad GLN

Sorry be fair in posts, this is what you have solicited: Please provide name ,designation and official mobile number of all the officers & employees working at SCB, Tiruvallur Division in accordance and in compliance of the provision of section 4(1)(b)(ix) of the RTI Act. 

Please let us not go into that not relevant now. Forget it.

Let us not bother about which is not required.  Let there by any PIO, applicant is not concerned if some one signs above such designation.

Pios are lethargic in implementing DOPT guidelines on format of reply and invite unnecessary issues.

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