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submitted for ur. kind perusal JK mittal vs cic.pdf

File a second appeal and apart from other grounds that you may take also add the ground of public interest and quote section 8(2) of the RTI Act: Section 8(2) is reproduced below (emphasis added):

A citizen should seek information available in material form as record from that authority with whom that record is available. You know where the panchnama is available as record. You have to file RTI Application in hard copy mode as per laid down rules and regulations of your state to that Public Information Officer, in whose office Panchanam is available and you will certainly get the same under RTI. It appears that you have filed on line RTI application to Central Government RTI portal and it is not to be used for seeking information from state government departments .

RTI is mainly about seeking certified photocopies of the documents. Just frame queries such that it points towards documents. For instance, please provide me a certified photocopy of the documents wherein has been noted specific details of liabilities of my project mentioned in the NDC form.

Dear Sir, What is the meaning of "petitions in composite nature" composite petition 000542_+_543_+_544_+_545.pdf composite petition CIC_KY_A_2015_000175_M_155699.pdf composite petitions CIC_KY_A_2015_001099_M_180064.pdf composite petitions CIC_KY_C_2015_000183_M_180896.pdf composite petitions CIC_KY_C_2015_000208_M_180890.pdf

One of our members tried to expose a fraud in Syndicate Bank , Nellore , AP and sought guidance in the forum in several queries. Thereafter never visited the forum. It was learnt from today's news paper that finally he could establish fraud prima facie and CBI has commenced investigation. The member should have atleast posted success story though he may not acknowledge support.

Dear Sir, I have attached the judgment of the Delhi High Court following the decision issued by the Central Information Commission, regarding “Composite Petitions” composite petitions CIC_KY_C_2015_000152_M_180880.pdf delhi high court judgment.pdf

Under the provisions of the RTI Act, a FAA does not have the power to impose a penalty on a PIO. The power to impose a penalty is available only to an Information Commission. Please refer to section 20 of the RTI Act.

Make a complaint to State Information Commission, establish that temple as Public authority stating all such requisites and major contributions by Government. Get that appeal decision and study before once again going to IC.

File a first appeal on the following ground: Grounds of First Appeal: 1. As per section 4(1)(b)(x) a public authority is supposed to suo-motu publish the following information: (x) the monthly remuneration received by each of its officers and employees, including the system of compensation as provided in its regulations; Thus, the PIO has disposed of my RTI application in violation of the provision of section 4(1)(b)(x). By the way, because of judgment of the Hon'ble Supreme Court in Girish Ramchandra Deshpande's case most the information that you have sought may be denied u/s. 8(1)(j) i.e. personal information ground. Nevertheless, you can cite section 4(1)(b)(x) and try and get some of this information.

"This route" words used by you presumed as RTI. Your impression may be correct or may not be correct as every thing depends on perseverance. Every route is directed to one destination. RTI is a road/journey to destination and never a destination..

Relevant para: Decision of the Commission Any person (even non advocate) can appear on behalf of information seeker Appearance has to be authorised by the Commission Person appearing can charge consideration for his/her appearance PIO can be represented by Advocate Any party can be represented by an Advocate Coming to practice many High Courts appointed a permanent counsel before Information commissions (State/Central) and they handle each and every case pertaining to any court in the state. In case of CIC, in some cases two advocates represent one for PIO and another FAA of High court. Those senior counsels appoint junior most and he spends entire time at ICs office and manage their affairs. One can understand the time and expenses involved as it takes minimum two days for any CPIO attending to CIC, but CPIO not personally attending the cases is not proper implementation of RTI. The attendance is a routine matter and there is no such thing as authorisation. Infact no one verifies even such letters.

Guide to drafting a good RTI application Drafting a good RTI application can be as easy as writing a simple leave letter. As long as the applicant knows the basics of the RTI Act 2005, drafting an application, requesting for information from any public authority, is little more than child’s play. 1. Pre-requisites: Your full name and address have to mentioned in the application. If you so wish, you can also mention your telephone number and email id, although this is optional. Have ready information about the Public Information Officer (PIO), his designation, address etc. In case you have problems locating your PIO/APIO you can address your RTI application to the PIO C/o Head of Department and send it to the concerned Public Authority with the requisite application fee. The Head of Department will have to forward your application to the concerned PIO. Do not address your RTI application to the PIO by his name, just in case he gets transferred or a new PIO is designated in his place. 2. Preparing to draft an RTI application: a) Carefully read Sections 2(f), 2(i) and 2(j) of the RTI Act, which defines the “information”, “record” and “right to information”. Your request for information should contain as many words as possible form these three basic definitions. b) Read the relevant RTI Rules (either for the Centre, State or Courts) which are applicable to the public authority from whom you seek information. These rules will indicate the quantum of fees, the mode of payment of fees, any special application format to be followed, etc. Follow these RTI rules to the letter “T”. c) Remember to always use a white sheet of paper to write an application. Use of note sheet or the Court stamp paper should be avoided. Use of letterhead for asking information can also be made. However, avoid using your official designation or title and simple sign with your name. The RTI application can be either written by hand or typed. There is no compulsion of typing the content. The application should be easy to read and well legible. 3. Why do you need the information? First, ask yourself why you need the information ? Unless you have an answer to this question, there is no point in requesting for the information in the first place. What is the issue you are facing? What information needs to be asked to help in getting the issue resolved? A good indication is the preamble of the RTI Act which states that three main objectives of the Act are: Increase Transparency in the functioning of the Government Hold the Government accountable for its actions or inaction Reduce corruption If your application seeks information which covers these objectives, then there is little chance of it being rejected. 4. What will you do with the “information”, once you get it ? Now that you know why you need the information, you need to also decide what will you do with the information, once you get it. Are you going to get it published in the media, will you use it in a court case, is it for furthering your case in your office, is it to get some wrong corrected? The answers to these questions will help you decide what exact information to ask for as well as in what form to request the information. For example, if you want to use the documents obtained under RTI in a court case, it is advisable to ask for “certified copies”. If you want to give media coverage to a particular issue, then you must ask for information on a current issue of larger public interest. 5. Ask for only “information” ! Try to draft an RTI application that DOES NOT disclose the overall nature of the problem in your mind. It MUST NOT give a glimpse of what you intend to do with the requested information e.g. register police complaints, approach investigating agencies, file a PIL etc. Also, your RTI application MUST NOT indicate how badly you want the information, and therefore, please don’t mention anything such as When you write an RTI application, you must try to gain only information i.e. copies of relevant records and documents, you must not try to gain sympathy, respect etc. Your application should look like a shopping-list of documents. Name documents that you are requesting by using words from Sec 2(f) and Sec 4(1)(b) of the RTI Act – reports, logbooks, emails, advices, rules, regulations, manuals etc. Only after exhausting these should you use other similar names e.g. quality audit reports, correspondence etc. In case this information is denied, the similarity of wording will help you to convince appellate authorities that your requested information is “records” and “information” that must be mandatorily given. There is absolutely no need to give any background, reasons, etc. for seeking information. Don’t make your application sound like a letter of complaint or a letter-to-the-editor. Don’t preface it with a covering letter or an introductory paragraph. RTI applications should be emotionless and bland. No Ramayana, no Mahabharat – just ask for “information” – plain and simple. 6. Be specific in asking for “information” and avoid vague expressions and requests: While filing an RTI application, the framing of the questions is very important. A slight misunderstanding or vague questions gives the PIO a chance to reject your application. Avoid vague expressions and requests such as: Why did I not get my Ration card? What is the present status of issue of my Ration card? Give me .action-taken report Words like “status” and “action” are open to interpretation, and usually, fail to point towards any particular document; they can mean different things to different persons like applicant, PIO, APIO and appellate authorities. In most cases, there is no such document called “action-taken report” in existence, and therefore, the PIO cannot be rightly asked under RTI to generate such a document in reply to your application; PIO can only be asked to give you copy of a document that exists. The right way is to ask for signed and stamped copy of all correspondence till date in the matter of your complaint, including memos, emails, covering letters for forwarding your complaint etc. Ask for copy of logbook or any other book where details of your complaint are entered, marked to specific officers for their investigation and action. Ask for a copy of all their remarks, feedback, reports etc. If the case on your complaint is closed, ask for the closing remarks of the officer concerned. Give particulars of the project to build XYZ. What “particulars” do you want? Engineering drawings? Budgets? Financial projections? Feasibility reports? Consultants’ studies? This is not clear. Don’t leave it to the PIO to decide what documents to include and what to leave out. Be specific and name the documents that you want copied. Make it difficult for the PIO to loosely interpret your request. Similarly, do not ask information about a future event – like By what date will my passport be delivered? The PIO is not an astrologer to predict the date of delivery of your passport. But do not be the jockey of a journalist to solicit opinion, advice or action on an issue. RTI is not meant for hypothetical or subjective questions. Your query may end up being disqualified. 7. How long should your RTI application be ? Do not make your application very long. The Central Government has set a 500 word limit for each application. Some state governments and legislatures have set a limit of only 150 words and ONE subject matter per application. Ideally your RTI application should not be more than one A4 size paper sheet – after all your objective is to get “information” and not to test the PIO in collecting maximum information in the shortest possible time ! If you put three related queries in one application, you may get answers to all of them. If you pack thirty queries instead, chances are slim that you will get satisfactory information on any. Put yourselves in the shoes of the Public Information Officer (PIO); what would you do if you saw a lengthy RTI application that asks endless questions and supplementary questions? If I were the PIO, I would endlessly postpone looking at the application, and then go out of my way to justify the delay or denial. Wouldn’t you? Think that you are a PIO, and then think about how to draft an RTI application that you would like to give a reply to without any delay. A single lengthy application may scare and overwhelm the PIO, and tempt him to throw it into his drawer. He will hesitate and postpone searching for the information. Instead, send a small, manageable RTI application with only 3-4 questions. Then, after you receive a reply to that, send another one… and another. Or maybe, many applicants can file small applications seeking related information, at the same time. 8. Specify the period for which information is sought Don’t be over-ambitious. For an RTI applicant, it is very easy to write a question like, “Give copies of all licenses issued from January 1981 till date” or “provide a list of all vehicles registered in your RTO since 1990”. For the PIO, this means searching 25 or 30 years of files and records. Older files may have been put into basements or buried under tons of old dusty files. Therefore, please ask yourself whether you REALLY need data that is so old, or whether you are just trying to satisfy an academic curiosity. Don’t request 30 years data if five years data will suffice for your purposes. Don’t ask for five years data if six months data is sufficient. 9. Ascertain if the information is already available: Before shooting off your RTI application ascertain if the information you are seeking is already available in the public domain. After the advent of the RTI Act, many public authorities have already uploaded mountains of information on their website. Search for the information on the internet – even if the information you seek might not be available on the public authority’s website, it might be available elsewhere. Some other RTI activist might have asked for the same information and released it to the media. Do a thorough search before drafting your RTI application. 10. Exhaust all possible means of grievance redressal before using RTI: If there is a pending issue or a grievance for which you want to use RTI, first exhaust all possible means of redressing that grievance by already available means, like reminder letters, letters to the head of the public authority, public grievance portals, etc. Only if you have exhausted all means of grievance redressal, use RTI as the last resort. Some Government departments have indicated fixed time limits for certain issues in their respective citizen charters. For example, the if the Income Tax department states that it takes 9 months from the end of the financial year to refund your excess tax, then obviously there is no point in filing a RTI application before that time limit. 11. General: Never draft an RTI application when you are in an angry, revengeful or even a bad mood. Such applications are bound to fail. Relax, get back to normal and then only pick up a paper and pen to prepare your first application draft. After you have written down your first draft of RTI application (or complaint or anything else), let it cool down in your drawer for a couple of days. Then take a re-look and think about making improvements. Ask a friend or colleague to have a look and give you suggestions. Can the friend understand what are you asking for ? Does he find it easy to understand? There is no harm in redrafting the application several times before you get to the final version. Seek help and guidance from RTI activists and experts, who will guide you to draft a correct application. Many websites on the internet also guide RTI applicants during the RTI process. All such guidance is free, so why not make maximum use of it ?

Instances that involve disclosure of sensitive information, it may be rationale for the CPIO to ask for citizenship proof Information Commissioner Divya Prakash Sinha held that seeking citizenship proof in case of demand of sensitive information is justified but seeking a signed copy of the application does not seem appropriate as the online portal does not mandate uploading of signatures. Sinha was hearing the plea of an Odisha-based RTI applicant who had sought from the Army information regarding implementation of rules under the Sexual Harassment of Women at Workplace (Prevention, Prohibition and Redressal) Act, 2013 in all defence establishments. The Army did not provide any information to the applicant, the CIC noted. Akhand approached the Commission with a complaint that the central public information officer (CPIO) of the Army has demanded a signed copy of his online RTI application as well as identity proof before providing him the records. “In this regard, it may be noted that as far as CPIO’s request for citizenship proof is concerned, the same is not questioned as Commission in its prior decision(s) has held the view that Armed Forces stand on a slightly different footing as there may be instances that involve disclosure of sensitive information, and for such reasons it may be rationale for the CPIO to ask for citizenship proof,” Sinha noted. Originally posted here!

According to an estimate, between 40 and 60 lakh RTI applications are filed every year, but less than 3 per cent Indian citizens have ever filed an RTI plea. Of the applications filed, less than 45 per cent received the information they had sought, according to the ‘Report Card of Information Commissions in India, 2018-19’ released by the Satark Nagrik Sangathan (SSN) and the Centre for Equity Studies (CES). But of the 55 per cent who didn’t receive the information, less than 10 per cent filed appeals. As of 31 March 2019, there were 2.18 lakh appeals and complaints pending before the SICs. The study added that it took an average of more than a year for most SICs to dispose of complaints/appeals. While the SIC of Andhra Pradesh would take 18 years to dispose of a complaint, West Bengal SIC would take seven years and five months. Then there is the issue of threats and acts of violence against RTI activists. In the last 15 years, at least 86 people who had filed RTI applications have been killed while 175 others have been attacked. At least seven applicants committed suicide while 184 applicants reported being harassed. As per a study by the Commonwealth Human Rights Initiative, between 2012-13 and 2018-19, the total number of RTI pleas with various central government offices rose by 83 per cent — from 8.86 lakh to 16.30 lakh. Read the Study here Of the 115 chief information commissioners appointed during this period, over 83 per cent were retired government servants, with 64 per cent from the elite IAS. Read the detailed Opinion originally posted here!

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Sri Shravan...Your tweet on CBI investigation in Syndicate Bank , Nellore brought in many issues now and the member has started once again coming to forum. In the past he has received a break through and under the impression that AXIS bank is a private Bank, and not within ambit of RTI, he stopped visiting forum. Now in one day he has sent 6 PM. Taking clue from your example on trial basis I have selected two pending issues one of Mr.Subbu and another of one Goa ships case. Both received the information and were successful. Thank you but your tweet they should have not come back. regards prasad

Sir, Sir ,CPIO has replied that for increasing minimum pension ,matter is under consideration and hence no information available. Only restoration of commuted value of pension has been approved in CBT meeting at hyderabad Copy of extract of minutes of meeting enclosed

Sir, I had received the information on time after I have submitted the first Appeal, Sorry , I have forgotten to submit the update on this , the information recieved helps to prove the illegalities of ship call in the port under the absence of ship repair and consignor in port , the matter will be raised to the high court Of Bombay at Goa with the help of the good prosecutor ! thank you very much and due respect to this platform for helping the people like me for keeping up the transperancy in the GoVt! thank you, Damodar S Divkar.

After filing RTI Application through speed post or Registered post, after one week applicant should search in Indiapost website delivery status of the envelope by typing the number given to the envelope, note the delivery date, and get a screen print and enclose it to his office of RTI Application. The normal procedure is for going to First Appeal if information is not received from PIO within 35 days from date of posting the envelope. Then in First appeal one has to enclose copy of RTI Application and also the screen print showing delivery status and state in Grounds for first appeal as "Deemed denial' of information. If PIO says that he has not received, blame the luck and provide him a copy as immediately as possible with fees of Rs.10/- once again, as there is no use of arguing and proving in such cases.

File in Ministry of DOPT .

I have done the Optical Character Recognition (OCR) of the screenshot for you. Now you can just copy/paste these notification numbers and Google search will give you the documents, for example I have attached the document mentioned at point (a) herewith this post, you can also click on the link inserted at point (a) and download it: a) Paragraph No.8 of the Annex to our circular on 'Rationalization of Branch Authorization Policy' No.DBR.BAPD. BC.69/22.01.001/2016-17 dated May 18, 2017; b) Paragraph No.2 of our Circular on 'Relaxations in Branch Authorisation Policy-Off Site ATMs' No.DBR.BAPD.BC.72 /22.01.001/2015-16 dated January 14, 2016; c) Paragraph No.4 of our Master Circular on 'Branch Authorisation' - No.DBOD. BAPD.BC.7/ 22.01.001/2014-15 dated July 01, 2014. d) 'Cash Management activities of the banks Standards for engaging the Service Provider and its sub-contractor' - DCM (Pig) No.3563/ 10.25.07/2017-18 dated April 06, 2018 e) 'Cassette - Swaps in ATMs'- DCM (Pig.) No.3641/10.25.007 /2017-18 dated April 12, 2018. f) 'Outsourcing of Cash Management - Reconciliation of Transactions' - DCM (Plg)No. 2746/10.25.07/2018-19 dated May 14, 2019 g) 'Security Measures for ATMs' - DCM (Pig.) No.2968/10.25.007 /2018-19 dated June 14, 2019. h) Sr. No.Vll.19 of the Annex to our circular DBOD.FSD. BC.23/24.01.011 /2008-09 dated July 23, 2008 on 'Credit Card Operations of Banks' Notification-'Rationalization of Branch Authorization Policy'.PDF

We in India have adopted a federal form of government, with a Union Government at the Center and then State Governments for each State. RTI Act is the same for both the Union Governments and the State Governments, however, the RTI Rules as well as Public Authorities are different for them. For Central Govt Public Authorities the Central Govt. Rules and its Online Portal will be applicable, however, for each of the State Govt's their respective RTI Rules and Online Portals if any will be applicable. Kindly refer to your particular State Govt. 'RTI Rules' and 'Online Portal if any' for the same.

Go for second appeal on same grounds as in First Appeal. Frauds in Public institutions are not in larger public interest and there can never be exemptions under RTI or any other act. Even the statutory obligation of maintaining secrecy of customer account is having exemptions if their own interest is involved.

In that case, RTI is not helpful, it is only through writ mandamus you can demand for your rights. (Even in Case of world famous Balaji Temple at Tirumala, though the Chairman and commissioners (IAS) are government authorities even after SIC declared them as public authorities there was no such judgment from AP High Court) For bring any such organisations, the first thing one has to establish is that without government assistance, the organization cease to exist. For this to file complaint you require Balance sheet or Income and expenditure statement for last three years and disclose as to what is contribution and extent of contribution from Govt. to establish substantial contribution. Without having such balance sheets and role of govt., it is not possible to frame any complaint.

This was your post: " I recently filed an RTI asking for last five years copy of all self signed no liability certificate submitted by retired and tenure completed staffs, tenure completed sanctioned projects and waiting for the reply." Please come back with such response so that you can file meaningful first appeal. Be prepared that no one cares for RTI and you have to ultimately approach for Information Commission only. Hence abide by time frame and if there is no response from PIO within 35 days from date of filing your RTI, immediately go for first appeal without wasting time. One can seek information from Public Information officer, and he has to direct or take assistance from FAO. Be brief and post exactly what you require from Public Authority and how you wish to use that information for logical conclusion.

Please check the RTI template available for seeking information on roads, on the following link, and see if it helps: https://righttoinformation.wiki/guide/applicant/application/sample/road-work

Please post exact query and exact response in the issue and the logical conclusion you wish to have out of the employee's information.

The application drafted by Hon'ble Prasad Ji is excellent, however, there is just one small correction, the DoPT Rules (which pertain to Central Govt.) are not applicable to a State Govt. unless the place is a union territory. So you can say: 1/Please provide me photocopies of General Diary from 1st May, 2020 to 30th Jun,2020 with due certification as per section 2(1)(j) of the RTI Act, maintained at.................PS as expeditiously as possible. The necessary fees will be paid after receiving such calculation sheet from SPIO.

Post the relevance to context -Uttar Pradesh rules are available in our forum. Search.

Is this query and neighbour's fight are inter related ? If so you can ask the police to demand for filing their documents

They feel that they are the most busiest persons and they wanted to help you both and who ever prevails more can get benefit. When you have given complaint, it was registered. When he has given, they have registered his complaint also. Impartial. This is the problem with neighbours fights. No one can get justice and they with their families for further generations live like enemies. Not connected to RTI. Contact advocate and protect yourself.

Registration records are treated as Public records. Any citizen can file prescribed application for seeking such copy and must provide full details like SurveyNo....extent House NO....Assessment No document No, year. The maximum costs for getting such certified copy may not be more than Rs.250/-. You can go to jurisdictional registrar office, and there are consultants that can help you and get such CC within a day. The issue is not simple as you think. Possession and enjoyment is more important further to title. Also obtain EC for 12 years. Always use professional services of Advocates or consultants in those money matters where you invested hard earned and precious money in assets.

Yes Sunil ji, you have understood my question correctly and thanks for the response, I'll consider the 2nd appeal, asap Thanks to both of you 😊

Prasad Ji, If I understand it correctly, the poster has stated that the FAA has approved his first appeal and directed the PIO to provide all the requested information, however, now the PIO is taking umbrage under the pretext that: Yes the FAA has passed an order but I shall not provide the information for the time being since Covid19 is going on. So now the PIO is not denying information but is delaying to provide it on the ground of Covid19 .. therefore the question of the poster maybe: What can be done about it?

For learning RTI, it takes just one hour through this forum. No legal expertise is necessary to know about RTI and every one and any one can become expert in RTI within few hours by becoming members and reading very few sections in RTI that is relevant and contents are just one page of A4 page.

Believe me, you can get things done and instead of depending on others, you can teach RTI to others if you become a member and seek guidance. The promoters of the forum kept a treasure of knowledge and you can mine each and every thing in RTI from this mine. Learn and teach-Never depend on others..Do not spend time and money never depend on any outsiders.

Sir, Public property was registered by neighbors as an ancestral property of them. I have applied certified copies read all the pages no survey number is mentioned in that registered property no link document attached to that property. May i file RTI regrading this issue to Sub registrar office to provide the certified copies of link documents which were not registered this information i have asked to Sub registrar office to provide certified copies of the link documents they said is not possible to provide the link document deed is not registered and also may i also file a RTI application reason for not mentioning survey number on that registered property. Is their any possibility is there to file complaint against Sub registrar for above issue , after registering the document if there is any possibility to cancel the registered deed on above higher officials of Sub registrar . Thank you.

RTI is not that easy, and by clicking a button you can never get information on second appeal. It may take more than 2 years for the present or more and the result in your favour is uncertain. So, it is most necessary to construct such second appeal. When you have your own reservations to upload query, and resonse without names, we feel sorry for not guiding you precisely.

I am sorry, some thing is missing in communicating the facts. FIR is a public document that has to be uploaded in website and the denial of such FIR copy under Sec. 8 (1) (j) is unknown. 8 (1) (j) is on providing of information of third party and while denying information, the PIO is expected to obtain Third party comments also.Without such justification and third party comments, the denial is not proper. This is certainly a good ground for appeal. (You have in your first post stated that information was denied on pending investigation point) The First Appellate Authority is a superior over Public Information officer and they both belong to one dept., In view of this if appellant is not satisfied with FAA orders, he must go for second appeal if the information is urgent and important. The purpose and objective of second appeal is to assure citizens that there is an indepedent party that can take care of citizen's right, You have neither copied and pasted information part or PIO reply part and give different versions of denial in different posts and want whether CIC can entertain the second appeal. If it is Police, the FAA order stipulate as to the Second appeal authority and his address. Defnitely it is not CIC and it must be State information commission (if not UT) RTI bare act can be downloaded free or a book in your mother tongue can be purchased. Please go through Sec.8 and Sec.19 and learn basics as you can teach others also.

Unless you specify the information exactly solicited by you and exact PIO reply it is difficult to guide. It is true that when the investigation is in progress, PIO need not provide information as per Sec.8 (1) as providing information may impede the progress of investigation.. The most important point here is the justification part. PIO has to explain as to how providing that information can impede the progress of investigation. If he fails to give justification, it amounts to deliberate and malafide denial and you can prefer second appeal to State Information Commission.

Some of you -- at least CJ Karira, who helped me years ago in one crucial step, getting SEBI to acknowledge its own circular! -- know of a 15-year quest among desi academics to get SEBI to release its stale masked FII data for academic research. At one point years ago a parliamentary query by Shyam Benegal, then Rajya Sabha MP, sought the release of this data for academic research. He then made a subsequent RTI query asking what had done about his complaint about the terrible answer he got to his parliamentary question. We thought we had succeeded when in response to that SEBI did put in public domain that FII data and promised to update. And to their credit, they did update it from time to time, even if a bit fitfully. But thanks to a question by a curious IIT-Madras undergrad, we realized that what SEBI gave with one hand they took away with another. While the idea was that the FII IDs would be masked to preserve privacy, without telling anyone, SEBI changed the masks each month, drastically reducing the value for academic research (since you can't even tell how many distinct FIIs are there in the data base, and whether anyone traded over time). It also caused mistakes in academic research since no one imagined that SEBI would use changing masks, when no other regulator or exchange on the planet does so. To get SEBI to finally agree to not hide by changing masks, but to keep a stable mask, has taken many years. But at least per the ruling received yesterday, it has been achieved, with no violence to anyone. I attach the ruling. I can also post the various submissions made at the Second Appeal hearing if there is any interest (need to scrub email-IDs, per the policy of this site). Addendum_To_CIC_2nd_appeal_28th_February_2020.pdfThis RTI site, in particular Karira-ji, has been very helpful to me in the course of this long episode thru countless RTI queries. And I am grateful for that from the bottom of my heart. I am confident we will see quite a few PhD dissertations using this database within the next few years. Addendum_To_CIC_2nd_appeal_28th_February_2020.pdf Second_Addendum_w_Appendices_29th_Feb_2020.pdf CIC-SEBIH-A-2017-139953-BJ.pdf Third_Addendum to Additional Submission for RTI Second Appeal_2nd_March_2020.pdf To_CIC_2nd_appeal_27th_February_2020_Redacted.pdf Draft_Talking_Points_for_the_Hearing.pdf From_SEBI_Written Submiissions - Murugappa Krishnan 139953.pdf thanking_CIC_post_decision_Redacted.pdf

If there was a system of providing certified copies for a fee, before enactment of RTI, it should prevail. There was such a procedure of providing certified copies of registered documents at Registrar's office prior to 2005. So Registrar office for getting certified copies is beyond ambit of RTI Act. To get certified copies of any documents basic necessities are Year. Registration No. Book No... volume No....Folio No. Without these basic facilities, you can not get any certified copies. However certain professional can search the records and find out the details and only professionals can do that. The search fees are nominal. Even in RTI you have to specify minimum details . Unless a document is registered you can never get an entry in Registrar's books. The only source is revenue dept., the neighbours old documents that state the owners of their boundaries. The document registered can be filed only by Court on filing a declaration suit. If it is a public property, and if there is no claim, it becomes the property of the possessor who is enjoying the property for 30 years. First chart out a plan and make written complaint to that Public authority that owned the land and send it by registered post. First step. After one month file RTI Application seeking information under RTI Act on action taken on your complaint and developments, with present status. With all this, file a PIL before High court and let the law take its time.

Kindly file a first appeal on the basis of the CIC decision attached herewith this post. You will also get material to draft the grounds of your first appeal from this CIC decision.Fiduciary_FB-10022009-01.pdf

This appears as a private civil complaint with your neighbour. RTI Act shows the way for obtaining information available in the form of material record with public authority and provides that information to citizens if it is not exempted under Sec. It appears to me that your query is beyond ambit of RTI Act and only local advocate can provide a remedy for your problem.

Please upload CIC decision and post the story as success story. After terrific gas leakage at Vizag, these kind of Larger public interest applications brings into light the deficiencies of the units much early. You are a lay man, and you should be accompanied by an expert of some voluntary organisation and the report you submit to them MPT may bring several safety violations . Search on line for such expert in any voluntary organisation.

DoPT issued clarifications, revisiting its previous instructions on uploading RTI Applications, Appeals and decisions on official website of public authorities vide its OM No. 1/1/2013/IR dated 07/10/2016. DoPT Clarified that the personal details of RTI applicant/appellant should not be disclosed as they do not serve any public interest. It is further clarified that the personal details would include name, designation, address,e-mail id and telephone no. including mobile no. of the applicant. Copy of the OM can be accessed here >> http://ccis.nic.in/WriteReadData/CircularPortal/D2/D02rti/1_1_2013-IR-07102016.pdf

Please refer to the blog on the following link and prepare the grounds of your first appeal: http://jps50.blogspot.com/2014/06/justification-for-reasons-for-denial.html

Yes, you should file an application.Maybe it will be processed in the nearest furture and they'll be able to help solve the problems. Even if they are domestic or family matters, the main point is to get what you need.

On 06/10/2015 DoPT issued guidelines vide Office Memorandum NO. 10/1/2013-IR prescribing format for giving information to the applicants under RTI Act. The OM also issued guidelines on method of supplying certified copy. Henceforth the CPIO should endorse on the document by putting a seal indicating "True copy of the documents/record supplied under RTI Act" with signature, date, name of CPIO and name of public authority. Copy of the OM is attached: DoPT OM dt 6-10-2015 on Format of Reply and Certified copy - 10_1_2013-IR-06102015.pdf