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  1. 20yrs old information

    @Prasad GLN sir No doubt that this is complex and complicated 1.POA was given to religious society oct.1990 and got registered with the respective govt department, as per law and got registered on 17th dec 1990 within prescribed period of 90 days. with the clause that they will collect the rent and an get property transferred in their name from 1st Jan 1991 after that all the expenses in their account not any burden to the donor. swami got sanyas diksha in 1997, as per the hindhu law .(civil death copy attached) Now the Trust came into picture in 2000, started collecting the rent ,issued rent receipts to all the eight shops holders, 2. Swami has not sold the property it has been gifted to the relative of the trusty, not by the trust. copy of registration of trust/NGO attached showing that it is Public trust to serve mankind not a private trust. some where noticed that public charitable trust assets can not be given to friend,trust member or to the relative(check some law). all the shopkeepers interest can be considered .as public interest or not. OR any fraud can be established. public trust registered.pdf Civil death.docx
  2. 20yrs old information

    @Sunil Ahya sir In earlier posts mentioned that Power Of attorney was registered with registering authority in Punjab as property situated in Punjab, case is pending with SIC punjab to explain how larger public interest.involved. 2nd RTI related with the income tax is not with the state commission it is time bar, reply from jt.commissioner appeals also asked for the larger public interest., with instruction to cpio to verify the gift deed. see attachment read last two lines.. regards
  3. 20yrs old information

    @Sunil Ahya Mr Sunil There are two different RTI applications filed 1. Div commissioner ,where POA was registered , from them asked for registration date of POA and withdrawn date if any their reply is, NO larger public interest involved or file reply how larger public interest involved by 4th april 18(state information commissioner) 2. Other RTI filed with income tax department ,if the trust has shown the rent receipt in account books and hw property was gifted to relative of PUBLIC CHARITABLE TRUST in INDIVIDUAL capacity not by the trust.,as trust filing the returns with IT(exemptions). same reply but with the endorsement to CPIO to inquire about the gift and report,whereas CPIO not replying despite of reminders, Now wrote to the appealing authority that CPIO not giving any action taken reports Regards gupta
  4. 20yrs old information

    @Sunil Ahya Require the information that the power of attorney registered with Div.,commissioner is withdrawn on which date. Regarding RTI with income tax department, asked that as the rent receipts issued by the trust for the same property is entered in the accounts books as they file the return under exemption act, they refused no larger public interest involved. regards gupta
  5. 20yrs old information

    Dear Mr Prasad Again gone thru the post of Monday 6.05pm,let me explain point to point keeping beside income tax department ,that we discuss in other post. complex matter POA was issued to krishna society from Abroad, which was registered at Div., commissioner office ,patiala indicating that they can collect rent and to pay all the expenses if any no binding to the donor and can transfer in their name. TILL 2011 it was not transferred in their Name.After 20011/12 transferred in the name of gift holders.(As per my information POA was not withdrawn with due course of law) if withdrawn. so require this information if not withdrawn the POA 2. now the point is where it was intimated that this property comes under the trust, bcz trust member(relative of gift holder's )issued the rent slips to shop keeper's and denied that he had not issued those rent receipts.. Registrar of society /trust says they have no record or not found such trust, where as trust was registered on 12th feb 1996 having office at delhi but operating in Rishikesh.(got the document showing the date of registration from the net) Now the point is gift is made in INDIVIDUAL capacity not by the trust,income tax department says no public interest is not involved ,also not confirming that the rent is entered into the account books of the trust. Also let me know about the meaning of Go/certificate by the IT as mentioned in the earlier post. regards gupta
  6. 20yrs old information

    @Prasad GLN @Prasad GLN @Prasad GLN @Prasad GLN @pkguptaa @Sunil Ahya @Sunil Ahya @Prasad GLN Dear Mr Prasad Let me explain Sic not mentioned any thing about Third party in his order dated 15th jan 2018, directed to file reply that what public interest to collect the information. I had placed order copies of CIC on 15th jan 2018 CIC/AD/A/2009/001084 DATED 9TH SEPT 2009 AND CIC/AD/C/2010/000077 JULY 13,2010 (REGARDING 20YR OLD INFORMATION CAN BE SUPPLIED CIC/SG/A/2010/000535/7425 THIRD PARTY INFORMATION NOW what was the information exactly solicited A POA was executed abroad by donor in 1990 in the name of krishna society through its president and was registered with the div., commissioner and accepted by the president of the society.(REQUIRE THIS INFORMATION) In 1996 Donor came to India formed a public charitable trust not private, and that trust started collecting rent from the shops outside the property and trust is filing returns with income tax department under exemptions head. (EArlier posts about income tax department, posted by me and guided how to proceed further, no reply yet received from CPIO.income tax, see earlier posts. In 2007 donor gifted the property to the relative of the Trust member's relatives in INDIVIDUAL capacity not by the trust. Now i have file reply next week what public interest is involved,please guide thanks and regards gupta p k
  7. 20yrs old information

    @Prasad GLN Dear Mr Prasad Let me explain Sic not mentioned any thing about Third party in his order dated 15th jan 2018, directed to file reply that what public interest to collect the information. I had placed order copies of CIC on 15th jan 2018 CIC/AD/A/2009/001084 DATED 9TH SEPT 2009 AND CIC/AD/C/2010/000077 JULY 13,2010 (REGARDING 20YR OLD INFORMATION CAN BE SUPPLIED CIC/SG/A/2010/000535/7425 THIRD PARTY INFORMATION NOW what was the information exactly solicited A POA was executed abroad by donor in 1990 in the name of krishna society through its president and was registered with the div., commissioner and accepted by the president of the society.(REQUIRE THIS INFORMATION) In 1996 Donor came to India formed a public charitable trust not private, and that trust started collecting rent from the shops outside the property and trust is filing returns with income tax department under exemptions head. (EArlier posts about income tax department, posted by me and guided how to proceed further, no reply yet received from CPIO.income tax, see earlier posts. In 2007 donor gifted the property to the relative of the Trust member's relatives in INDIVIDUAL capacity not by the trust. Now i have file reply next week what public interest is involved,please guide thanks and regards gupta p k
  8. 20yrs old information

    @Sunil Ahya Dear Mr Ahya I have asked for the photocopy of register showing date of registration of the POA registered with the Div. commissioner Patiala as POA issued from foreign land was registered in earlier years, Also asked for copy it it has been withdrawn or not.(earlier post shows the all the correspondence about 20yrs old record ). No section mentioned for exemption, just wrote in first reply 20yrs old information can not be supplied, when asked under which section information denied. NO clarification.In appeal Commissioner denied no third party information can be supplied plus there is no public interest involved. whereas if that POA is not withdrawn ,then how it came under the Public charitable trust, if it was under the trust ,then how it can be gifted in INDIVIDUAL capacity, not gifted by the public charitable trust. also asked information from CPIO (EXEMPTIONS) income tax, appellate authority again denied on the ground of public interest but also asked CPIO to supply the action taken report ,how it has been gifted. CPIO not replying despite of reminders.. (Earlier post income tax department) Regards P k gupta
  9. 20yrs old information

    Sir Filed the appeal with the state information commissioner, copy of order attached. commissioner asked to file what public interest involved to collect the information.and to appear again on 21st feb.2018. Bcz of some work could not attended hearing on that date but sent reply thru mail. (copy attached) Then got reply and copy to commissioner patiala.from SIC chandigarh (order copy attached). Next hearing date is 4th april 18, please guide to frame the reply to have the information. Thanks and regards P.K.Gupta sic chandigarh 21st feb18.pdf r.receipt_3 (1).pdf rent (1).pdf.crdownload reply 21st feb18.docx sic chandigarh.pdf
  10. Income tax department

    Dear Mr Prasad No reply from the CPIO from first letter asking action taken report, sent again reminder , no reply received regards p k gupta
  11. information more than 20yrs denied

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  12. Sir Sent RTI application to P.I.O commissioner Patiala, mini secretariat, Patiala for information regarding date of registration of power of attorney. PIO replied as the information is more than 20yrs old so that can not be supplied. copy of reply attached in punjabi. please guide under RTI act any ruling that old record information more than 20yrs can not be supplied. Any judgement regarding this. regards p k gupta
  13. information more than 20yrs denied

    Sir Sent RTI application to P.I.O commissioner Patiala, mini secretariat, Patiala for information regarding date of registration of power of attorney. PIO replied as the information is more than 20yrs old so that can not be supplied. copy of reply attached in punjabi. please guide under RTI act any ruling that old record information more than 20yrs can not be supplied. Any judgement regarding this. regards p k gupta
  14. Income tax department

    Dear sir Thanks P k gupta

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