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  1. Section 74 to 78 of The Indian Evidence Act 1872 regarding supply of certified copy of public documents. Concerned sections are given below :- Section 76 - Certified copies of public documents : Every public officer having the custody of a public document, which any person has a right to inspect, shall give that person on demand a copy of it on payment of the legal fees therefore, together with a certificate written at the foot of such copy that it is true copy of such document or part thereof, as the case may be and such certificate shall be dated and subscribed by such officer with his name and his official title, and shall be sealed, whenever such officer is authorized by law to make use of a seal; and such copies so certified shall be called certified copies. Further Section 74 - Public documents :- The following documents are public documents :- (1) Documents forming the acts, or records of the acts— (i) of the sovereign authority, (ii) of official bodies and tribunals, and (iii) of public officers, legislative, judicial and executive, [of any part of India or of the Commonwealth], or of a foreign country; (2) Public records kept [in any State] of private documents. Now the question is - Whether Indian Evidence Act 1872 is a substitute of RTI Act 2005 to get certified copy of any public documents ? whether Consumer Forums have jurisdiction on deficiency if certified copy of requested public documents not supplied u/s 76 of The I.E. Act 1872 ? While recently a 3 member Bench of National Consumer Commission has denied jurisdiction of Consumer Forum on RTI deficiency (RP/3146/2012 decided on 8-1-2015). Now above matter will be discussed in District Consumer Forum Ajmer (Rajasthan). भारतीय साक्ष्य अधिनियम के तहत सूचना के लिए ज्यादा वसूली पर राजस्थान सूचना आयोग को अजमेर कंज्यूमर फोरम का नोटिस। सूचना क्रान्ति में एक नए अध्याय की शुरुआत के तहत अजमेर कंज्यूमर फोरम ने राजस्थान सूचना आयोग को नोटिस जारी किया है। राजस्थान सूचना आयोग ने अजमेर निवासी तरुण अग्रवाल से भारतीय साक्ष्य अधिनियम के तहत बिना नियम बताये सूचना के सत्यापित प्रति के लिए ज्यादा पैसे की वसूली की, जिसकी शिकायत तरुण अग्रवाल ने फोरम को दी थी । परिवाद संख्या 162 / 2015 पर 5 मई 2015 को सुनवाई करते हुए फोरम ने राजस्थान सूचना आयोग को 17 जून 2015 के लिए नोटिस जारी किया है। तरुण अग्रवाल ने भारतीय साक्ष्य अधिनियम 1872 के धारा 76 के तहत राजस्थान सूचना आयोग से 20 दिसंबर 2014 को कुछ दस्तावेज के सत्यापित प्रति की मांग की। आवेदन के साथ 10 रूपये का भुगतान करते हुए निवेदन किया गया की चूँकि अधिनियम में फीस प्रेसक्राइब्ड नहीं है इसलिए अनुमानतः 10 रूपये भेजते हुए विनती की जाती है की फीस अगर ज्यादा है तो वापस कर दें अगर कम है तो बताये ताकि प्रार्थी उसका भुगतान कर सके। आयोग के दफ्तर से सूचना अधिकार अधिनियम 2005 के तहत सूचना के 2 पेज का 4 रूपये का डिमांड किया गया जिसका प्रार्थी तरुण अग्रवाल ने प्रोटेस्ट के तहत 27 जनवरी 2015 को भुगतान कर दिया। आयोग ने भी 6 फरवरी 2015 वांछित सूचना की सत्यापित प्रतिलिपि उपलब्ध करा दी। जब प्रार्थी ने आयोग से साक्ष्य अधिनियम के तहत वांछित फीस के बारे में पूछा की दो पेज की जानकारी के 14 रूपये का भुगतान कैसे लिया गया तो आयोग ने कोई जवाब नहीं दिया तो तरुण अग्रवाल ने साक्ष्य अधिनियम के तहत निर्धारित फीस नहीं लेने की शिकायत फोरम को दी। NEWS PUBLISHED, CLICK AT BELOW LINK :- à¤*ारतीय साक्ष्य अधिनियम के तहत सूचना के लिए ज्यादा वसूली पर राजस्थान सूचना आयोग को अजमेर कंज्यू
  2. Reservation system in India has always been in controversies. A majority of citizens of India specially students demand reservation based on financial status of individual. However, Govt has not even processed a single case to resolve this issue. I want to know that what kind of hurdles are there in changing reservation system in India. Is it really impossible or just a Vote Bank for political parties ??? Sent from my SM-G925F using RTI INDIA mobile app
  3. I have received the certificate from one University. I want to know is it fake or real one. So I want to go for verification for the same. Please kindly help. Sent from my SM-G615F using RTI INDIA mobile app
  4. salmanshaikh786

    RTI Act Rule 8(1)J ..!!

    Respected Hon'ble Members.... Personnel information will not be disclosed if it is so it required large public interest... How we have to consider the large public interest..is there any fixed numeric or any value which describes the same... Plz help me Out..!! Sent from my iPhone using RTI INDIA mobile app
  5. http://www.dot.gov.in/sites/default/files/Link6.doc?download=1 Right to Information | Department of Telecommunications | Ministry of Communication | Government of India You can find in the bottom that DOT has classified some documents and won't give them to you. How they came to the conclusion that these are classified and are these excluded under RTI or their own decision, only our Lord knows that. My guess is they are not classified under RTI, but by their own decision. It isn't really a right if they decide what information they give you. If they chose what information to give, it's not a right. DOT seems to think that they have right to make changes to RTI act and exculde whatever information they feel the public shouldn't see. Atleast they are protecting activists lives without giving them powerful information.
  6. In case of decision of the FAA to provide information, what is the time limit for CPIO to provide information? Till what time should a Citizen wait till he files second appeal?
  7. sir, a partition suit was pending between two brothers and one of them is a senior citizen. suit was initiated by the partition suit it was found that the other brother had got all prop records mutated to his single name. when a RTI is filed to get some info, the local panchayat office declines to give info stating case pending in court to cover up the forgery they had done? is this a valid denial?
  8. hello, a person had a ration card in tamilnadu until mid 80s. after his demise, it was then transferred to my his wife in late 80s. and they had 4 legal heir sons, and only 1 only is residing at the property now. case is pending in court. grandson wants to file a RTI to get copy of ration cards issued at this address. want to know the currently status of the ration card and who name if t is is under to be submitted as evidence to court. filed RTI asking for information in mid 1980s, but got a reply stating records for the years such backdated, are not available. how should he approach with this. ? can he file a RTI asking for current ration card status and the procedure used to remove rest of the legal heir names. if the ration card is under the legal heir name (persons uncle), will it be consider private information as the person is eligible only to get his father/grandfather information.
  9. Sir, One government employee working in TSRTC and his friend both cheating to his Colleague and his relative members for government jobs in POSTAL and TSRTC department,and collected huge amount from them. Against government employee what is the procedure's of complaint and where to complaint. Sent from my Aqua Trend using RTI INDIA mobile app
  10. Sir, I had filed rti in irctc for getting verified information about passenger details about 03 yrs old journey, they have replied me to deposit rs 750/- per pnr. How I can do payment to get the information? Plz guide Manish Sent from my Redmi 4A using RTI INDIA mobile app
  11. alkeshcivil

    Civil score

    Dear sir, My self alkesh patel, My Pan No - ALLPP3027-G Kindly help and Guide me for further way forward for this type(as mentioned Below) situation. One more thing if you check my last 3 years (more) income tax return i have been paid more then 2,00,000 Rs. every year it shows that my character with respect to money. actually i have been knew the my CIBIL Score is low just because of Credit Card problem. 1. HDFC Bank. when i take this card that time it is one year Charges only then after almost 2 years i had pay 448 Rs Per year As a One year Charges. actually as last paid amount by me excluding 448 Rs of yearly charges then after i did not use that card. even though when i was move saudi arabiya that time i have been changed my address from delhi to Gujarat my native address. also when i came back to india i have been visited local HDFC Branch but they did not reply me properly then now they charge on my card lost of amount instead of 448 Rs. 2. Standard Charted Bank. for this card i have been made my payment by internet while i was in Saudi Arabai just because of time difference date change they charge me 750 Rs late payment charge then after they charged same thing again & Again and make one big amount. Sent from my iPhone using RTI INDIA mobile app
  12. Dear Sir, Referring to the subject as mentioned, I have put the application in the Government department for more than 30 days till date and not yet receiving the information nor even any reply by the office to me. Can you please give me some suggestions regarding this matter and what is the next step do i have to go for this based according to the RTI Act 2005. Thanking you. Sent from my HTC Desire 526GPLUS dual sim using RTI INDIA mobile app
  13. sir, my grandfather had a ration card in tamilnadu n his name and transferred to my grandmother name in mid 90s after his death. he had 3 sons. and one son is residing at the address and rest all moved out. is it possible to get copy of such ration card from 80s and 90s by filing a RTI along with copy of legal heir certificate. this is required for some civil suit .will it still come under public information or will t be rejected. as i heard , civil supplies in tamilnadu have poor track record of responding to RTIs and rejecting with frivolous reasons. please advise
  14. Hi All, I blessed with a baby girl in last month , I don't know about the govt benefits for newly born baby girl.. can anybody help me here ..? Sent from my Moto G (4) using RTI INDIA mobile app
  15. sir, just some clarification required on the below party A is a cosharer of a ancestral property that is in forced possession by party B. a civil partition suit is pending. both the land and EB records are in party A and B names. party B had rented sub portion of property to commercial shops as well.it was also brought to notice of party A that party B is tampering with meters,based on online activity, because of which there is NO EB due each month at all,for last 1 yr, even though there is a active full use of service - home with shop. just to be on the safer side and not to be blamed,and penalty imposed in future, because of activities of party B, can party A file a complaint followed with a RTI(asking for details of inspection done) with EB office in regards to misuse and tampering of meters. does the pending civil suit has any binding before a complaint can be initiated.?
  16. salmanshaikh786

    Anonymous Petition..!!!

    Respected Members... My own uncle had received an anonymous complaint letter against him ... Request on necessary steps how to deal with anonymous name complaint letter... Sent from my iPhone using RTI INDIA mobile app
  17. What is different between telegraph act and electricity act
  18. hello, i want to file a partition suit on my ancestral property on a 60 yrs old property. i have very minimal information on the property and even that is 20yrs old and lot has changed now that it is hard to traceable without any local influence. i am talking to few advocate . should i expect the advocate to do the task of getting all records from the revenue dept especially for the exhorbitant fees that some quote. (this is my first time dealing n a civil case.. so my ignorance) some advocate say that I can go ahead with the case and ask for a appointment of advocate commissioner after the preliminary decree is passed. but my concern is,what if the case gets dismissed or lost at preliminary stage if the land records and ownership are not clear. for the fact, it s very much sure that these are ancestral properties being enjoyed by a single legal hier and as confirmed after several RTIs on the illegal mutation that had happened. please advise.
  19. Ttoday HUDA official asked ID proof with RTI application in the shape of Adhar card /PAN card. Some thing strange. Some judgements have been passed by high courts. latest position.......
  20. Information about rti Sent from my iPhone using RTI INDIA mobile app
  21. From so many days some one talking with my psych but they are invisible...they giving me mental torture... I Want to know who doing ths please tell where can i get information about ths Sent from my Moto G (5S) Plus using RTI INDIA mobile app
  22. Under the provisions of section 4(1)© required to publish all relevant facts while formulating important policies or announcing the decisions which affects public; (d) provide reasons for its administrative or quasi-judicial decisions to affected persons Since NDMC in persuance of council resolution no.21(H-03)dated 22.7.2009 followed by another resolution in council meeting no.1/2013-14 dated 26.02.2014, the DTL pay scales have been granted to all left out categories of employees of NDMC wet 01.04.1998 as per Supreme court orders. Accordingly process for fixing the revised pay scales of the left out categories by issuing the office order no.Inch.Cell/13/HA Dr.26.2.14. The above details regarding the releasing the payment to its employees are not available nor any representation being replied for from last 3 year's.nor publish on NDMC website May please advise some action? Now a reply has been received from NDMC stating that my complaint has been filled,and no reason is given.
  23. I have been First Appellate Authority (and Head of Office as Teacher-in-Charge of a College) for 8 months, and I had to deal with some RTI Cases in which I myself had been RTI Applicant (and PIO). New Principal has joined 5 months back, and I am back to “Citizen”. Queries: 1) I had conducted some Hearing after getting No Reply from “Deemed PIOs”. In most cases, the “Deemed PIOs” to all pending cases remained absent (= expected non-cooperation), though the present PIO (whom I got designated after being appointed as Teacher-in-Charge and Secretary to Governing Body) remained present. In such Hearing (in some cases re-scheduling another date of Hearing with same consequence), I passed Order (with proper Minutes of Proceedings mentioning all details) directing Present PIO to respond to RTI Application within specific time. I also provided the Present PIO in writing – all query-wise Information as available to me as FAA/Head of Office. In one case, the Present PIO, without getting Information from other “Deemed PIOs”, has replied to RTI Applicant (me – to my Residential Address) writing as: “Following documents are annexed herewith that speak for themselves” – and has annexed the very communication that I had made to him as FAA. a) Since, it is my own writing (as FAA), and I got it as RTI Applicant, will it be considered as valid Information? b) Can I be charged later that I used my position to exert influence on PIO to make him send myself my desired Information? 2) With above probability, I had taken following precautions: a) In my communication to PIO, I wrote as follows: “Here is Information as much I can provide you as FAA/Head of Office; and I also permit you all access to Information in Office Custody. You are requested to reply to RTI Applicant to his Residential Address within 10 days.” Does this precaution suffice? b) The second precaution I had taken is: I filed a Report with updates, and set “Teacher-in-Charge’s Reports” and “RTI matters” as agenda in two Governing Body Meetings that I convened as Secretary to Governing Body. However, the Governing Body decided to defer discussions on the agenda (= as expected, because the President to GB had approved the agenda grudgingly). I reasoned (with myself) that No Discussion = All Discussion, because the burden is now on GB. Does this precaution suffice? c) The third precaution, I am about to take is: I (as “Citizen”) am thinking of writing to Principal/FAA that I got incomplete Information to that RTI Application and so he is requested to provide me Information. With this, I am thinking to add: “If I do not get any further response from your kind end within 15 days, I will assume that the FAA’s communication forwarded to me by PIO is the final and conclusive response of First Appellate Authority and Public Authority of --- College.” Will this suffice? My line of thinking is: I am giving the present FAA a fair chance to alter/modify etc. the Information provided by his preceding FAA. 3) I am a bit worried about the Present PIO because he is drawn in a situation that he is not responsible for. What good advice can I offer him at this point for his safety? He is my very good colleague. One advice I have already offered to him is: if you don’t get cooperation from College in RTI matters, simply resign. (This sounds Negative, but the ground reality is abysmal … and Honey Moon days with new Head of Office do not last long!) I will share my experience as FAA vis-à-vis Information in separate thread. Regards Indrajit
  24. SRA was introduced for the sake of developing slums, and the reason for initiating this is to rehab them. I hope I am correct to this. (Please note this point, and continue reading further). They are very well known that 60% of Mumbai population contributes of lower class, and middle class. They also know that slums mostly are developed G+1 or G+2. Each of the houses contains a separate electricity bill, and is also registered with government or with Landlord (dhani) any how. In case, If they do not contain a separate meter, then there is a valid point, but that's not the case here. So, then why the rule came into existence, that upper tenants would not get their homes if it goes in SRA scheme. Your motive of the SRA project and the laws associated with it, both conflicts with each other. They do not stand it it's own. I have a simple question, that why was this rule integrated and just because of this, tenants residing from 1980's or 1995s are not getting what they deserves. If you create s rule or a law, first localise it before you print in your sake full books. Why the Upper tenants are not getting their houses, even with all valid documents they carry, I am damn in need of an answer to this, and I really feel to sue the Maharashtra Government for creating such rules. Is there anyone, who can understand and answer to me. I would be very happy to hear from them. Sent from my ZUK Z2132 using RTI INDIA mobile app
  25. my engineering collage not giving my ssc certificate back when i am failed in 1st year. collage saying to pay full 3years of fee than they will give me my ssc certificate. what should i do ? i am in hyderabad. Sent from my SM-G570F using RTI INDIA mobile app
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