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  1. An RTI query has revealed how an Indore-based LPG gas distributor was selling subsidised cooking gas cylinders in the black market by maintaining more than 80 ‘ghost’ connections. Gross irregularities have surfaced in the distribution of subsidised LPG cylinders during a physical inspection conducted in the city by Indian Oil Corporation Limited (IOCL), said Chanchal Gupta, an RTI activist. Read at: Oil marketing company fails to weed out ghost LPG connections in Indore
  2. Hi, Many thanks for reading my post. I want to obtain some information from our local area gas distributor using RTI as i am some unacceptable activities is going on by the agency. E.g (like taking more charges for changing of customer name, they force the customer to buy some product while taking a new connection). I need your help to draft RTI as i have never filed RTI earlier. Regards, Samir
  3. केंद्र सरकार ने देश के 11 राज्यों में संशोधित डायरेक्ट बेनिफिट ट्रांसफर फॉर एलपीजी (डीबीटीएल) स्कीम की शुरुआत की है। इसे 1 जनवरी, 2015 से पूरे देश में लागू करना अनिवार्य है, लेकिन मध्य प्रदेश में इस योजना के जरिए लोगों की जेबें हल्की की जा रही हैं। इसका खुलासा मध्य प्रदेश के आरटीआई ऐक्टिविस्ट चंद्रशेखर गौड़ द्वारा दायर की गई आरटीआई से हुआ। स्कीम के नियमों के मुताबिक अगर कोई सिलिंडर मार्केट रेट पर खरीदता है तो उसे मार्केट रेट पर ही वैट और एंट्री टैक्स भी चुकाना पड़ेगा। फिर केंद्र सरकार द्वारा सब्सिडी राशि को कंज्यूमर के बैंक अकाउंट वापस डाल दिया जाएगा। इस तरीके से सब्सिडी देने पर कंज्यूमर को सब्सिडी की राशि पर भी टैक्स देना पड़ेगा। इस तरह जो सब्सिडी राशि उसे बैंक अकाउंट में वापस मिलेगी, उस पर भी टैक्स देना होगा। Read at: MP dodges Centres missive on reducing VAT on LPG cylinder - Navbharat Times
  4. The mystery of a sudden rise in LPG connections http://www.moneylife.in/article/lpg-connections/40291.html?utm_source=PoweRelayEDM&utm_medium=Email&utm_content=Subscriber%2328616&utm_campaign=Weekly%20Newsletter%2031%20January%202015 Almost 5.2 crore connections were added after Aadhaar was linked to LPG purchase for getting Direct Benefits Transfer. The newly added accounts means more than a third, or Rs15,725 crore, of subsidy at 12 cylinders per consumer per year For the last several years, domestic consumers of liquefied petroleum gas (LPG) have been put on gas with repeated changes in the delivery process. The latest is named PAHAL (for Pratyaksh Hastantarit Laabh) and was earlier also known as direct benefit transfer (DBT). Most LPG consumers have lost sleep over the heat each change has generated. Direct Benefit Transfer or DBT is an initiative to replace subsidised goods or services with electronic transfers of subsidy amounts to beneficiary bank accounts. Under the DBT-for-LPG subsidies (DBTL), households are required to place an order of LPG cylinder from their LPG distributor, pay the full (unsubsidized) market price for the cylinder in cash on delivery, and then receive a payment equivalent to the current subsidy amount via electronic transfer to a bank account registered with their gas distributor. Why should the existing process be changed in favour of the DBT? According to the Ministry of Petroleum and Natural Gas, the scheme was created in order to remove incentive for diversion of domestic cylinders for commercial use, protect entitlement and ensure subsidy to the consumer, improve the availability/delivery of LPG cylinders for genuine users and to weed out fake/duplicate connections. [TABLE=width: 710] [TR] [TD=bgcolor: #F3F3F3] [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=bgcolor: #F3F3F3][TABLE=width: 670, align: center] [TR] [TD][h=3]The business process[/h][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] 1 Consumer Books the Cylinder [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Gas Refill booking XXXXXX for Con XXXXXX Booking Cleared till 01 Dec.14 at ABC AGENCIES. Ask deliveryman to weigh cylinder before delivery[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]2 Consumer intimated of Cash Memo[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Gas Booking No XXXXXX subsidized Cash Memo XXXXXX; Dt 06.12.14 Rs.450,Refill will be delivered shortly. Ask deliveryman to weigh cylinder before delivery. [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]3 Consumer intimated of Delivery[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Gas refill delivered on 06.12.14 vide Cash Memo no.XXXXXX.If not received, provide your feedback on XXXXXXXXXX. Use of smaller Burner Saves Gas.[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]SMS messages received by domestic customers at each step of the current business process (Dates used for representation only) [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=bgcolor: #F3F3F3] [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Pre-DBT, the domestic consumers were required to book their refills with oil marketing companies (OMCs). The OMC would generate a Cash Memo and the Distributor would then deliver the cylinder. The OMC would ask the customer to report if the cylinder was not delivered. If the customer was within the limit of 12 subsidised cylinders a year, the cash memo was at a subsidised rate; else it was at the market rate. If the consumers registered with the distributors were all genuine, this scheme provided little opportunity to distributors to divert cylinders without collusion from consumers who did not consume their quota of 12 subsidised cylinders. However, consumers who were not genuine could enjoy the benefit of subsidised cylinders and any supply of cylinders to them was in effect a diversion of subsidised cylinders to those who did not qualify for them. [h=3]The re-engineered process post DBT[/h]Post DBT the domestic consumers are still required to book their refills with the OMCs. The OMCs are still required to generate a cash memo and the distributor is still required to subsequently deliver the cylinder. The OMC is still required to ask the customer to report if the cylinder was not delivered. The cash memo, however, is now to be at the market price. The OMC is now required, each day, to generate a file based on the refill orders delivered and send it to a “Sponsor Bank” (currently State Bank of India-SBI) for transfer of subsidy amounts to eligible consumers. Consumers, who are Cash Transfer Compliant customers, or those who have a bank account linked to their LPG consumer number, will now receive subsidy into the bank account, they linked with their consumer number. Does the reengineered process post DBT meet the objectives the government set to fulfil? [h=3]Diversion of domestic cylinders for commercial use[/h]This change in the process of providing the consumer subsidy does not alter the ability to prevent diversion. If distributors were diverting cylinders in collusion with consumers who did not consume their quota, they can continue to do so. If non-genuine customers were claiming subsidised cylinders, nothing in the reengineered process has altered the ability to recognise genuine consumers from non-genuine. The non-genuine customers can, therefore still continue to consume subsidised domestic cylinders, thus diverting them from genuine consumers. The reengineered process, thus, does not prevent the diversion of domestic cylinders for commercial use as desired by the scheme. Protect entitlement and ensure subsidy to the consumer Almost 96% of those surveyed in a pilot project by the International Institute for Sustainable Development (IISD) found the DBT required too much paperwork, requests from multiple authorities for a range of documents including electricity bills, ration cards, bank passbooks and identification cards. This represents a non-trivial cost to access the reengineered process. It is therefore evident that the reengineered process actually makes it more burdensome for the consumers and in particular the poor and marginalised, to claim their entitlements. It does not protect the entitlement without having to pay a significant cost. The paperwork, requests from multiple authorities for a range of documents are barriers easily overcome by those in organised claim of cylinders beyond their own entitlements. Therefore, by increasing the barrier for genuine consumers, the reengineered process actually ensures the subsidy for those who may be fake or duplicate consumers. In fact, with the process it may be possible to draw subsidy without needing to consume LPG (and pay market prices) as long as the file of orders filled sent to the sponsor bank can include desired consumer numbers. Furthermore, consumers now have to pay the full market price upfront. Despite the claim that there will be an advance after joining the scheme, participants have reported varying experiences, ranging from excess receipts, no receipts, to under receipts of the advance and subsidy amounts. DBT, therefore, does not ensure subsidy. To handle the new process more government and non-government agencies are involved. To deal with issues involving the delivery of LPG and DBT more government is required, not less. It is clear that the DBT ends up increasing government, rather than minimising it, as the Prime Minister has repeatedly avowed to do. [h=3]Improvement of the availability/delivery of LPG cylinders for genuine users[/h]The IISD study also found that households reported a shift in expenditure and an increase in short-term household borrowing—especially by poorer households— in order to facilitate purchase of LPG cylinders at the new decontrolled price. There were also attempts to limit the consumption of LPG, including substituting it with firewood or other biomass for some heating and cooking tasks. This means the reengineered process will definitely improve the availability of LPG, but by forcing the poor or marginalised to reduce their uptake of cylinders or by obliging those who can no longer access the subsided cylinders to opt out. Needless to say that it is actually any fake or duplicate consumers who will benefit from any improvement of availability/ delivery of LPG cylinders from the reengineered process. [h=3]Weed out fake/duplicate connections[/h]To participate in DBT, the reengineered process requires the consumer provide their Aadhaar number using “Form 2” and to Bank details using “Form 1” to the LPG distributor. If the LPG consumer does not have an Aadhaar number, they can give their Bank details in “Form 4” the gas distributor or their LPG ID using “Form 3” to the bank. The provision of this information does not identify a customer as fake or duplicate. The absence of this information does not mean a customer is fake or duplicate either. However, it is trivial for fake or duplicate consumers to provide any of this information. Thus, this linkage with the bank account does not serve to weed out fake or duplicate connections. Furthermore, the Reserve Bank of India (RBI) notification of 28 September 2011 made it possible to open bank accounts without verification. Such accounts can easily be opened by anyone, and in particular by entities that have been enrolment agencies for Aadhaar (since they are in possession of the Aadhaar number, demographic, and biometric details of those real or non-existent persons they have enrolled) as well as anyone with micro ATMs. It is therefore evident that despite citing it as an objective, there is no step that can weed out fake or duplicates envisaged in the DBT scheme. The DBT obviously fails to protect public interest and deliver good governance. [h=3]The reality of connections[/h]LPG consumers increased to 1,387 lakhs in 2011-12 from 845 lakhs in 2004-05 or an average annual increase of about 68 lakh consumers. Between June 2012 and December 2013, over 437.58 lakh new connections were added and 6.51 lakh multiple connections were surrendered (Lok Sabha Starred question No. 401 Dated 21.02.2014). This is 6.4 times the average annual increase of consumers. Between April and November 2014, there were 94.27 lakh new connections and 58.44 lakh Double Bottle Cylinders (DBCs). This indicates that almost 5.2 crore connections were added after introduction of Aadhaar linkage to LPG consumers and DBT. The newly added accounts, with current practice of calculating subsidy, amount to more than a third, or Rs15,725 crore, of subsidy at 12 cylinders per consumer per year. It is a well accepted fact that the Aadhaar number is merely a number assigned to unverified and unaudited data submitted by private parties (including banks and LPG distributors) who were paid per record. According to the UIDAI’s own affidavit filed in the Supreme Court, “The implementation of the UID Scheme which inter alia, include generating and assigning UID numbers to residents, defining mechanisms and processes for interlinking UID numbers with partner databases, framing policies and administrative procedures relating to update mechanisms and maintenance of UID database are continuous process involving interaction with agencies, public as well as private and also individuals.” Nowhere does this involve certification of identity, address or even existence of individuals. This gives rise to the possibility that the new connections and linked bank accounts actually include a huge number of fake and duplicate connections. If anything, it is these new accounts that need verification and audit before any reengineered process is effected. Furthermore, the possibility of diverting subsidies using the Aadhaar Based Payment Systems (ABPS) for money transfers is real. Even if the government now allows regular bank accounts for making money transfers under DBT, it will still be using the ABPS and this can well allow subsidies to be diverted to fake consumers in bulk. DBT thus appears to serve no public interest but rather stands to benefit private interests who may be involved in organised diversion of subsidy. [h=3]The subsidy[/h]How much money is involved? The total subsidy budget has risen to Rs46,000 crore for 2013-14 from Rs3,500 crore in 2004-05. This is a 13-fold increase in subsidy. By comparison, the consumers have increased from 845 lakhs to 1,600 lakhs or 1.9 fold in the same period. How is the subsidy calculated? Public sector OMCs participating in the PDS Kerosene and Domestic LPG Subsidy Scheme, 2002, get to claim a subsidy from the government by submitting data of the confirmed sales. They are expected to pass the subsidy on to the customers. As per this Scheme, the subsidy amount given to OMCs was to be equal to the difference between the cost price and the invoice price per selling unit (excluding state surcharge, excise duty, sales tax, local levies and delivery charges) computed ex-bottling plant for domestic LPG. The cost price was to be determined on import parity basis as specified in the Scheme and any changes in the cost were to be passed on to the consumer by making changes in the invoice price, which was to be revised periodically by the OMCs. By calculations implied by this Scheme, it is apparent that only Rs22.58 per cylinder is currently available as subsidy. Additional amounts provided as subsidy beyond this are obviously added to the subsidy claim in deference to government directions that are not in the public domain. By allowing any such increase in subsidy by orders of magnitude, contrary to that allowed by the Scheme, has increased the subsidy that is available to divert from genuine consumers. It is evident that the reengineered process post DBT does not meet any of the objectives the government set to fulfil. What then are the alternatives open to a government that desired minimum government and good governance? Alternate processes The OMCs could require consumers to enroll with them, and not with distributors, and have distributors to verify and the government to authenticate such domestic consumers. This would make the process of fake registrations significantly difficult. This one time process would help clean up the consumer database. Alternately, to ensure that no one is denied subsidised LPG, the government may require that each distributor delivering any entitlement or right will create an ID of the family benefiting from the subsidised cylinder. Such a record would be maintained to identify the beneficiary for future transactions for the delivery of LPG without any hassles as well as to allow any audit of the delivery of LPG. All those having taken benefit would be listed on a public website, beneficiaries.gov.in, for government authentication and public audit. Each distributor’s list of beneficiaries would be visible on public maps. Yet another alternate process would be to move subsidy to a tax rebate. It makes little sense to collect the money and then spend it again on a leaky system to give it back. Those who do not want the subsidy will not take the benefit of a tax rebate. This eliminates any cash transfers and registration of fake/ duplicate beneficiaries by different agencies involved in administering subsidies. Those who do not file returns could be given a subsidy account linked to their NPR/BPL card by the Finance Ministry to allow them to receive all the subsidies they are eligible for. All such account holders would need physical verification by Branch Managers or Post Masters (if these were postal bank accounts). These accounts would not allow any cash transactions and would only allow claiming the subsidised service at the subsidised price. The Pradhan Mantri Jan Dhan Yojana should actually be this, not the creation of non-operative bank accounts. These beneficiaries too would be listed on beneficiaries.gov.in for a public audit. These alternate processes will allow the government to provide good governance with minimum government and thus protect public interest. Is the Prime Minister listening? (Dr Anupam Saraph is a Professor, Future Designer, former governance and IT advisor to Goa’s former Chief Minister Manohar Parrikar and the Global Agenda Councils of the World Economic Forum.)
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    transfer of gas connection

    Hello, I have a gas connection in my name in Kerala. is it possible to transfer the same to my mother
  6. friends, Recently I have tried to apply for gas connection in Hyderabad to HP, Indane etc. Here, in Hyderabad It was made mandatory to take LPG stove along with connection. I have requested that I don't need stove, but they are not relenting. This is the case through out hyderabad. Is it possible to change this through RTI??
  7. An article by Yogesh Sapkale in moneylife.in on 21 Jan 2014: Aadhaar for LPG - Moneylife Aadhaar for LPG: How you can get justice? What has changed during past 12 months that required urgent intervention from the ‘pseudo supreme’ authority of Congress to lobby for increasing the subsidised LPG cylinders to 12? Will it stop the suffering of citizens who are harassed under the pretext of Aadhaar and subsidised cylinders? Here is what you can do in the meanwhile As mentioned in the first part, the Aadhaar, LPG refill subsidy and direct benefit transfer (DBTL) scheme is in to complete mess. The ‘larger than life’ claims made by the proponents of Aadhaar, especially IT Czar Nandan Nilekani, are falling flat in practice. Can the Unique Identification Authority of India (UIDAI) explain why people are not receiving LPG refill subsidy on time and into their own lined bank account while people not related with these are receiving SMS about LPG subsidy? The mess is created under the pretext of unique identification (UID), which was then penetrated into the LPG subsidy through banking system. All this was done without taking into consideration the issue and problems of LPG refill distribution and banking system. This has resulted in citizens suffering at the hands of LPG distributors under the pretext of Aadhaar, which is meant for residents. Following the interim order issued by the Supreme Court, all three oil marketing companies (OMCs), as well as union government and Ministry of Petroleum and Natural Gas (MoP&NG) had sought modification of the apex court’s order of 23 September 2013. The order unequivocally directed, “no person should suffer for not getting the Aadhaar card in spite of the fact that some authority had issued a circular making it mandatory.” According to Justice KS Puttaswamy, the retired judge from Karnataka High Court, who had filed the public interest litigation in the Supreme Court, government schemes (of making Aadhaar mandatory) cannot be imposed upon people. Speaking with Citizen Matters, Bangalore, Justice Puttaswamy had said, "An interim order is as much as a final order. So presently all these government schemes cannot be imposed upon people. And if it is done, it is contempt of court. The interim order does not mention any names ofschemes. But under this, no one can insist of Aadhaar for any government schemes like ration card, bank account, cash transfer, issue of LPG subsidies and so on." Another interesting aspect of the whole Aadhaar drama is Congress and most political parties are avoiding taking a clear political position demanding scrapping of the biometric identification exercise and are speaking with forked tongue. Congress vice president Rahul Gandhi’s speech last week is nothing but another example of bluffing. When finance minister P Chidambaram said there is a need to increase the quota for subsidised LPG refill to 12 from nine, both oil minister Veerappa Moily and oil secretary Vivek Rae were quick to rule out the hike. However, as soon as Rahul Gandhi expressed the need to increase the quota, the same Moily was quick to say that his ministry would put forward such proposal before the upcoming cabinet meeting. This shows the politicisation of LPG subsidy, especially looking at the general elections in next few months. It must be noted, it was the same Manmohan Singh-led government, which capped the subsidised LPG refill quota to six cylinders per year in September 2012. Following outcry from several quarters, in January 2013, it was increased to nine cylinders. The original idea behind the cap in LPG refill cylinders was to reduce the subsidy bill of the government. If the UPA government is interested in reducing subsidy bill, then why not scrap it in one stroke, instead of playing hide and seek games with common citizens? Interestingly question though, what has changed between January 2013 and January 2014 that required intervention from the ‘pseudo supreme’ authority of Congress to lobby for increasing the LPG refill per year to 12? It is nothing but vote bank politics to appease voters before the general elections. Hope the same thinking would be applied in scrapping the UID/Aadhaar project as well from the Congress high command, which still reportedly has not enrolled for the scheme. In a country like ours where illiteracy is rampant and the average citizen is already burdened with different cards for different purposes- voter ID card, PAN card, BPL card, the forceful linking of Aadhaar with LPG refill subsidy is only burdening the common citizen. Hope the Supreme Court takes the OMCs, Oil Ministry and the UPA government to task and put the illegal ‘Aadhaar business’ to an end. Most importantly, as Moneylife has been writing, the basic issue in India and its over billion citizens are not about subsidy, but it is about demand and supply gap. Citizens are being deprives their rightful benefits because the middleman-politicians-babu nexus is siphoning off the benefits before it reaches the end user. For example, citizens from a far away village are not receiving foodgrains because of the nexus. And directly transferring subsidy money in to these people’s bank account (if they have one) is not going to ensure that the foodgrains reach the village. This is because if the foodgrains are siphoned off before reaching the village and public distribution (PDS) shop, then how and from where these poor people are going to buy it? Anyway, that is subject for another article. Here we will discuss about the LPG refill subsidy only. There are basically two types of LPG customers, one who has linked their Aadhaar andbank account and two, those who have not done so. Those who do not have Aadhaar: Such customers are being flooded with SMS to enrol for Aadhaar and link it to their bank account and subsequently provide the details to their LPG distributor. However, with the interim order of the Supreme Court being in force, the LPG distributor and OMC cannot deny the rightful subsidy to the rightful customers. This means, any LPG customer, who may or may not have submitted the Aadhaar is liable to get the nine subsidised LPG refills for FY2014 (unless the OMCs increase it to 12 refills per year following the diktat from Rahul Gandhi). As Moneylife wrote, in one glaring example of misuse of powers, one distributor from Hyderabad not only denied a LPG refill to a customer despite showing willingness to buy it at market rate. Going one step ahead, the distributor even blocked the connection of the customer for not providing Aadhaar. Those who have submitted Aadhaar are also facing problems: Major issue these customers are facing is about receiving LPG refill subsidy on time and the communication. Several customers are still waiting for their subsidy to be deposited in their bank accounts. In the meanwhile, many had to buy the LPG refill at market rate that is without the subsidy. At present, the open market rate of a domestic (home use) LPG refill costs Rs1,275.5 while the subsidised refill costs Rs455. The subsidy amount in this case works out to be Rs820.5, however, the customer is getting only Rs794.84. This means he will have to pay the differential amount from his own pocket. In addition, there is value added tax (VAT) and income tax that the customer will have to pay. The subsidised cost of LPG refill included all taxes, but for non-subsidised LPG cylinder the customers will have to borne the cost. In addition, since the money would be deposited in the bank account, it would be considered as ‘income from other sources’ and the customer would have to pay income tax, as per his/her obligations under appropriate slab. What you can do? Mathew Thomas, a former defence services officer and missile scientist turned civic activist, who is campaigning against state database control of the people, has already sent notices to the UIDAI, MOP&NG and all three OMCs for the contempt of Supreme Court order. KP Janardan, one of the readers of Moneylife, had also sent a letter to the Chief Justice of India requesting to take suo moto action against the Oil Ministry. Pointing out toward an ad published by MoP&NG, he said, “It is worth noting that the Ministry has gone ahead and issued the said ad with impunity even after the Supreme Court had rejected a subsequent plea for a modification of Order dated 26/11/13. I would therefore request that the Supreme Court take suo moto notice of this wilful defiance of its Orders by the Union Ministry of Petroleum & Natural Gas and initiate contempt proceedings against it.” Similarly, if you are being deprived of your rightful subsidy for LPG refill (nine cylinders at present), you can do several things. But you need to act fast, on your own. 1. Write a letter (email) to your LPG distributor giving reference of the Supreme Court order and ask why you have been denied subsidy for your rightful nine refills. 2. Send a copy of your letter (email) to the oil marketing company like HPCL, BPCL or IOC. 3. Make full use of the online portals of all OMC that shows the record of your LPG booking, delivery and subsidy. 4. Mention in your letter that as per the Essential Commodities Act, the OMC and distributor is mandated to deliver the LPG cylinder at your home within 48 hours of booking. As most of the distributors don’t follow this, you can tell your distributor that you would file a complaint before the Consumer Forum. Here are rights of consumers under the Essential Commodities Act 1955 and the corresponding LPG (Regular Supply & Distribution) Order 2000... -Bookings for the gas cylinder must be accepted over the phone. -100% home delivery. -The gas cylinder should to be delivered within 48 hours of booking. -The customer has the right to weigh the cylinder on taking delivery. -Gas agencies must be open for business between 10am and 6pm, except on public holidays and Sundays. 5. Also inform the LPG distributor that his/her act is contempt of Supreme Court order and you would be compelled to write to the Chief Justice of India for it. 6. If the LPG distributor/OMC continues to act high-handedly, then write to the Chief Justice of India (with supported documents), requesting the Court to take suo moto action for contempt of court order against your LPG distributor, the OMC, Ministry of Petroleum and Natural Gas, the minister of MoP&NG and last but not least, the Prime Minister. You can also include Nandan Nilekani, the chairperson o UIDAI, the UIDAI and Planning Commission (as UIDAI works under it). 7. Use the Right to Information (RTI) Act while perusing the matter with all the concerned as they all fall under the category of 'Public Authority' as defined under the Act. Your LPG distributor is not a public authority, but you can file RTI asking the OMC for details about the distributor. (Read: Hassled over the delay in the delivery of your gas cylinder? Try the RTI route) Here is a sample/template for sending a letter to your LPG distributor prepared by Dr Anupam Saraph… [TABLE] [TR] [TD]Date: Your Gas Agency Name Your Gas Agency Address Dear Sir/Madam, I am enclosing a copy of the Supreme Court Order dated 23 September 2013 indicating that no person should suffer for not getting the Aadhaar card in spite of the fact that some authority had issued a circular making it mandatory. Your persistent demand for Aadhaar for me to claim the subsidized LPG refill cylinder entitled by me continues to cause my family suffering as I do not have an Aadhaar, do not wish to obtain one, and certainly do not want to link it with any bank account. According to the Union Minister for Petroleum and Natural Gas M Veerappa Moily, 'Over 14 crore people in the country have LPG connections. However, three crore among them have got connections by producing fake documents’. Clearly the 11 crore honest and law-abiding citizens do not need to be made to suffer Aadhaar numbers or bank accounts? Surely you cannot be placing blind faith on using a random number assigned by the UIDAI to a set of unverified and unaudited demographic and biometric data submitted and maintained/ operated by private parties who are paid for every record they submit in preference to your own records that you seem to have audited and have used all along? What purpose does this suffering serve? Surely you know that through its notification of 28 September 2011 the Reserve Bank of India suspended the “Anti-Money Laundering” Rules for bank accounts opened with Aadhaar as the sole KYC? Surely you know this makes it possible to transfer subsidy to unverified accounts operated by anyone who has hold of the Aadhaar-linked bank account? Surely you cannot want to cause people to suffer the embezzlement of their subsidy? I urge you to immediately discard any linkage or use of Aadhaar with your databases and revert to the time tested practices of issuing subsidized cylinders. Sincerely, Your Name Your Consumer Number CC: Chairman and Managing Director, Your Gas Company Minister for Petroleum and Natural Gas Registrar, Supreme Court for the attention of the Hon’ble Judges of violation of their Orders [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Here are the addresses… The Registrar, Supreme Court of India, Tilak Marg, New Delhi-110 201 (India) PABX NOS.23388922-24, 23388942-44, FAX NOS.23381508,23381584,23384336/23384533/23384447 Email: supremecourt@nic.in Veerappa Moily Minister, Ministry of Petroleum & Natural Gas, A-Wing, Shastri Bhawan, Dr. Rajendra Prasad Road, New Delhi 110 001 Email: vmoily@kar.nic.in Vivek Rae ​Secretary, Ministry of Petroleum & Natural Gas, A-Wing, Shastri Bhawan, Dr. Rajendra Prasad Road, New Delhi 110 001 Email:sec.png@nic.in Chairman & Managing Director Bharat Petroleum Corporation Ltd (BPCL) Bharat Bhavan No. I & II, 4&6, Currimbhoy Road, Ballard Estate, Mumbai - 400001 http://www.bharatpetroleum.com Chairman & Managing Director Hindustan Petroleum Corporation Ltd (HPCL) HPCL, 3rd floor, Petroleum House, 17 Jamshedji Tata Road, Churchgate, Mumbai - 400020 www.hindustanpetroleum.com Chairman, Indian Oil Corporation Ltd (IOC) SCOPE Complex, Core-2, 7, Institutional Area, Lodhi Road, New Delhi - 110003 http://www.iocl.com For LPG at IOC… AN Jha Executive Director (LPG), Indian Oil Bhavan, G-9, Ali Yavar Jung Marg, Bandra (East), Mumbai Tel: 022-26421845 Email: anjha@indianoil.in
  8. Y cng gas price increased in Gujarat? Why after getting cng gas rate on delhi Mumbai than after modified gas rate is 56 near by as per shown in newz and papers y this all happened y we Gujarati people did not get cng gas rate on delhi Mumbai rate?! Sent from RTI INDIA Mobile App
  9. Dear RTI Friends I applied for a new gas connection with IGL [indraprastha Gas Limited] more than three months back [lost track after calling them more than 10 times and giving my details again and again]. They provided me a Ref No. IP00010881 .Each time I call them they say that an executive will reach me shortly. They don't give any timelines and no one has contacted me yet - everytime they just say that someone will contact me soon. 1. Can I file an RTI to know the status? 2. Also I have heard that there are many more people like me. I want to know how many requests were delayed for more than a month and how many were handled within 2 weeks. Regards Manish
  10. I would like to know about the new LPG gas connection. I stay in Nagpur, I need a new Domestic LPG connection. Dealers here are insisting to buy a new Gas Stove with the new connection. If one doesnt want to buy new Gas Stove than they are not giving it. They are asking Rs.3500/- for the same. What I know is it actually costs somewhere around Rs.1200/- if one buys only gas connection alongwith refill, gas pipe and regulator, than why one should pay Rs.2200/- for the Gas Stove. The ISI mark Gas Stoves of good companies are available some where around Rs.1000/- to Rs.1500/-, why to pay Rs.2200/- for a local Gas Stove. I have been to Bharat Jyoti Agency in Yeshwant Stadium, Nagpur who is the dealer for Bharat Gas. Can you help me on this. I just want to know from Bharat Gas Company whether one has to buy the Gas Stove from the Dealer or one can directly buy from outside.
  11. Hello everybody! I suspect the following information provided by the District Supply Officer (D.S.O.) of my district in response to one of my R.T.I. queries as incorrect: "The District Supply Officer can impose penalty on an erring L.P.G. Distributor only under the Essential Commodities Act, 1955 which is usually Rs. 500/- per case and not more than Rs. 2000. The D.S.O. has got nothing to do with the Marketing Discipline Guidelines, 2001 for penalizing L.P.G. Distributors since it is the L.P.G. Companies who take action on erring L.P.G. Distributors under the M.D.G., 2001." Your valuable opinion is required. Thanks and regards.
  12. As reported in moneylife.in on 29 July 2013: Aadhaar not mandatory for LPG subsidy, school admission - Moneylife Aadhaar not mandatory for LPG subsidy, school admission As per the answer provided in the Lok Sabha by Rajiv Shukla, Aadhaar is not mandatory to avail subsidy for LPG cylinders, admission to private aided schools and opening a saving bank account The United Progressive Alliance (UPA) government and the Unique Identification Authority of India (UIDAI) have been complicit in the coercion and bullying that is now part of the UID enrolment process, and its silent acquiescence while people are threatened with exclusion from services and benefits if they have not enrolled. While minister for petroleum Veerappa Moily has been saying that all consumers of liquefied petroleum gas (LPG) will have to Aadhaar numbers to receive subsidy, the union government itself has admitted that it is not mandatory. Replying to an un-starred question on 8 May 2013, Rajiv Shukla, minister of state for parliamentary affairs and planning said, "Aadhaar card is not mandatory to avail subsidized facilities being offered by the Government like LPG cylinders, admission in private aided schools, opening a savings account etc." Rudramadhab Ray, a member of Paliament from Kandhamal constituency from Odisha, had asked the question. [TABLE=width: 600] [TR] [TD]Here is the question and the answer provided by the minister... ( ) GOVERNMENT OF INDIA MINISTRY OF PLANNING LOK SABHA UNSTARRED QUESTION NO 6678 ANSWERED ON 08.05.2013 AADHAAR CARD AS MANDATORY DOCUMENTS 6678 . Shri RUDRAMADHAB RAY Will the Minister of PLANNING be pleased to state:- (a) whether Aadhaar Card is mandatory to avail subsidized facilities being offered by the Government like LPG cylinders, admission in private aided schools, opening a savings account etc.; (b) if so, the details thereof; © the details of authorized centres for enrolment for Aadhaar Card in Delhi and NCR Region; and (d) The steps proposed to be taken to open more centres in every zone to facilitate the residents to get their names enrolled for Aadhaar Card? ANSWER MINISTER OF STATE FOR PARLIAMNETARY AFFAIRS & PLANNING (SHRI RAJEEV SHUKLA) (a) to (b): Aadhar Card is not mandatory to avail subsidized facilities being offered by the Government like LPG cylinders, admission in private aided schools, opening a savings account etc. © : There are approximately 195 centres operational in Delhi. Details of centres are available at the URL uidai.gov.in/easearch.aspx. (d): Government of National Capital Territory of Delhi (GNCTD) has appointed a total of 11 (eleven) registrars for Aadhaar enrolments, including all Deputy Commissioners, and two other department. The enrolment centres are being operated as per local requirement and availability of enrolment kits by the registrars on day-to-day basis. The GNCTD has also engaged more vendors recently to augment the capacity.[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE]
  13. rajiv7508

    bharat gas leakage

    Bharat gas LPG leakage I would like to know that is there any penalty system which we can approach for compensation!
  14. What is not disputed here is that the routine/general informations with respect to booking and supply of domestic and commercial LPG cylinders with home delivery and without home delivery facilities and other related information, are already available with M/s Rajesh Gas Service, an authorized distributor of LPG. Moreover, it is obligatory on the part of every public authorities to maintain all its records in the manner depicted under section 4 of the Act. The indicated informations sought are general in nature. Thus, the question of any commercial confidentiality, trade secrets or intellectual property and opportunity of hearing to the distributor did not arise at all. As it cannot possibly be termed to be a third-party, as defined under Section 2 (n) of the Act. To me, if the arguments of the learned counsel for the petitioner-Corporation are accepted as such, then no information is permissible, which would certainly nullify the aims and objects of the Act. Therefore, the contrary arguments of the learned counsel for the petitioner “stricto sensu” liable to be and are hereby repelled and impugned order deserves to be and is hereby maintained in the obtaining circumstances of the case. http://lobis.nic.in/phhc/showfile.php?sn=0 P & H HC judgment on LPG related info.pdf
  15. sueshayg

    LPG cylender time gap

    After central govt. put cap on cylender again distribubutor, company official is saying there is new direction to give subsidised cylender in the gap of 21/30 days.according to HP company official subsidised cylender can only given in time gap of 21 days. however without subsidy anyone can get refill any day. but distributors does not follow this rules. the are saying we can't delivery before 21 day.
  16. There is no time bar taking refill cylinder Most of Gas distributors do not book the cylinder before a periodd of say more than n 20 days after the cylinder has been supplied. But there is no such bar. Through a RTI Application I have confirmed from the Oil Companies. as details below. Since the issue is related to all of us and all over India. Please provide maximum publicity to the issue in the larger benefit of all Gas users. On 14th Nov.2009 I filed a RTI Application with Various Oil Companies to which I have received following reply: Q:-Copy of rules for refilling of Gas Cylinder both for domestic & Commercial specifying the time gap between receipt of filled up Gas Cylinder and Re-booking of refill. INDIA OIL COPORATION LTD Sector 19 A Chandigarh through PIO-cum-Dy. Gen Manager (LPG) vide Letter NO.PSO/LPG/RTI dated 16th Dec.2009 informed as under Refill can be booked as and when required by a customer to meet his/her genuine requirement of LPG for domestic cooking purpose. No time gap has been specified between the date of supply of a domestic LPG cylinder and the date for booking of the next refill. The same is also true for commercial LPG supplies HINDUSTAN PETROLEUM CORPORATION LIMITED lpg Regional Office at Rohtak Road Jind-126012 through Chief Regional Manager cum-CPIO Jind LPG RO Letter NO.LPG/SM/RTI dated 12.12.2009 informed as under : There is no time bar taking refill cylinder. However it should be used for Domestic cooking by genuine domestic customer. There is no time bar for Non Domestic refill R K Garg Convener RTI Chandigarh
  17. I shifted to Trivandrum few months back and wanted a new LPG connection for my new rented house. I approached one Indane distributor near Kazhakkoottam in Jun 2012 and I was asked to produce ration card. I dont have a ration card in my name. I told them that I live in a rented house and dont have a ration card. Then they told me that a residential certificate is required from the corporation along with rental agreement papers. Whne I approached the corporation office for a residential certificate, I was asked to produce the last receipt of the building Tax of the house where I live. How will I have this recipt! The building tax will be payed by the hose owner and he was not ready to give the receipt even though I told the reasons. Then I approached Bharath Gas distributor. I was asked to produce the rental agreement certificate attested by a Notary, but they are not issuing the connection after two months only!. After few days, my house owner told me that there is an agent who can be approached for getting a LPG connection and no need to do all these formalities mentioned by the distributors. Then I called that agent asked about the details. He told me to bring just rental agreemnt certificated and 3 pasport size photos. I asked him how long will it take to get the connection. You can get the connection tomorrow, he answered!! I was literally stunned !! The next day he called me and asked to take the cylinder, stove, regulator etc and the papers!!. Finally I gave hime 2500 extra. But I have a LPG connection in my name at the extra cost of 2500 rupees from the same Bharath Gas distributor!! All the requirement told by the distributors were rubbish!! The point is, many consumers like me are not aware of the rules and procedures of avail day-to-day life thinngs. People dont even know where to complaints such incidents. If the service providers ask or tell some details/reasons, where to check if they are valid etc etc. So I would like to know whether an authority is available to complain the incident. Thanks, Arun
  18. Indian gas agency supply us a cylinder with manufacturing fault which cost a mis-happening at our home.... now gas agency not accepting that cylinder have manufacturing fault.... we have that empty LPG cylinder with us till now... Please advise any testing lab where we get this LPG cylinder Testing for manufacturing fault Regards Parmod Verma XXXXXXXXXXXX and xxx@yyy.zzz - Deleted mobile number and email id - posting against forum rules
  19. On discreet enquiry it is learnt that there is no short supply of Indane LPG cylinders. However, agents take the order and reply that delivery of refill will be effected after 10 0r 20 days. The bill contains 2 dates. Previously both dates used to be the same. When questioned why two fields are allotted for date reply was not forthcoming. The new bill format shows order date and delivery date but the refill is delivered a day or two after that date. How do I get information about the proper procedure the agents need to follow?
  20. Rachana Gupta

    online gas booking

    Hiiii, I am Rachna having Indiane gas connection for domestic purpose. Now Indane cilender can only be booked online/SMS. I was trying to book gas and get to now that it has already been booked from my login ID before 3 days as well as has been delivered. How can this be passible??? now I require urgent refilling and its already booked so I can not book a new gas before 15 days of earier booking. Please let me know who is responsible for this?? and how to proceed the matter??
  21. Hello, I am really facing trouble by Indane gas and its policies its online system is firstly not working so they asked me to contact the gas dealer near my location now when i approached the dealer they asked me to cough up Rs4000 toward oven, pipe etc else they will not allow me with a new gas connection then when i have paid that the delivery man come to my house and is demanding huge money for delievr they simply said rs405 doesnot include the delivery charge and if i do not pay his charge which i thnk is a nothing but corrupton they will not deliver any further gas cylinder to my house. I am really in trouble i do not know who will actually help me or not as Indane gas is already doesnot bother about consumer and they do not handle any query be it new connection or be it complaint, if you people can help its good if you cannot then you can refer it to any consumer society on mybehalf and i will thankful to you for the same , thank you
  22. I would like to know where to make complaints about the misuse of domestic gas cylinders in dhabas and in restaurant tea shops
  23. Balkishan Agarwal

    indian gas agencies complain

    Sir i book my gas at Arpit gas agencies Bhilwara .my customer's no.A-8135 ,booking date 19-7-2011 till today 20-8-2011 i not rec supply i am going there 2-3 times they are telling always tommarow but sully not coming ,pls do some
  24. I can draft good RTI applications. But regarding this I have no clues. I seek help regarding what to be inquired, what issues to be raised so that I can expose the black marketers of my area? Thanks in advance.
  25. satish_chennai

    Indane - gas connection

    I had newly registered indane gas connection at chennai 16.6.2011 but till now the connections are not given on repeatedly enquiring it seems it will take another few months to be done. If this is the case what will we do to ..since we dont have ration card of chennai since i had been recently tranferred from mumbai to chennai...govt initation should be forced to solve issues like this.
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