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I was working for a Bangalore based IT company between 1999 and 2004. I left the organization on 31-mar-2004. I didn't remember whether I withdrew my EPF amount of the organization. But I am sure I didn't transfer the amount to my next employer. Of late, I applied for my EPF withdrawal through the Bangalore organization. I got a letter from EPF Office, K.R. Puram, Bangalore stating that the claim was settled on 24-Jun-04. Unfortunately I am not able to recall it. I checked my ICICI bank transaction history of 2004. I didn't find any clue of having received the EPF amount. Now I have the following queries. 1) The claim was settled within three months since I left the Bangalore Organization (31-Mar-2004). I was told that if someone wanted to withdraw their EPF before retirement, they need to wait for a few months since they left the organization and only the claim can be processed. In my case, it had been settled within three month since I left the Bangalore organization. Is it possible? 2) Now I want to know the full details of My EPF account of the Bangalore organization like what was the balance amount available in the account when I left the organization and If the settlement is done, how the EPF amount was sent to me (through DD/directly credited in my bank account). How to get this details? Please help me. I am looking forward to response
akhilesh yadav posted a topic in RTI in MediaA quick rundown on how to claim ‘unclaimed’ EPFO money Reported by Veeresh Malik in moneylife.com on Nov 28, 2012 http://www.moneylife.in/article/a-quick-rundown-on-how-to-claim-unclaimed-epfo-money/29883.html There may be substantial sums of money in your EPFO account even after withdrawal or settlement of your claim. Here’s a quick rundown on how you can claim unaccounted EPFO money In the ongoing crusade to find out more about the way the Employees Provident Fund Organisation (EPFO) really works, I have been contacted by present, ex-employees and several others who are proving to be a great source of information, as long as their identities are kept confidential. You can read the earlier piece on EPFO here. One interesting fact that has been reconfirmed concerns those who have withdrawn their Provident Fund (PF) money as part of a claim, at any time in the past, literally from the inception of the EPFO onwards. It seems that the EPFO had an interesting way of calculating the balance and interest. They often accounted for money in your accounts till the end of the previous financial year only. Anything after that by way of interest earned, or contributions deposited by your employers, was kept in your account or in a suspense account of some sort. This is where it either languished forever, or was quietly siphoned out. There are several reasons for this: • The claimant had already pre-signed a blank pre-receipt with a Re1 revenue stamp. • The claimant did not know that even after ‘settlement’ there was money accruing in the PF account—as interest earned on balance and interest “not claimed” • The EPFO chose not to make any public announcements on this subject • There is no provision in the EPFO for anything but a ‘claim’ by a claimant • Being a retirement benefit in most cases, original contributors often did not have the wherewithal to fight it out • If the original contributor had passed away, then establishing bonafides as the claimant was difficult, if not impossible • Any enquiries on this were brushed aside with the answer that this was probably service charges or taxes deducted • This “left behind” money has long been considered a perquisite by certain people To give an example, let us say your last date of service was 30 June 2005. By the time you claimed for settlement of both EPFO contributions and pension it was anytime between end 2005 and early 2006, maybe even later. Your forms were, as usual, pre-receipted blank. This is what, most likely, would have happened: • Interest earned would typically have been calculated as on amount in your balance on 31 March 2005. Or the 31 March of the year preceding the date of claim. Some interest earned would not have been credited to your account at time of settlement • EPFO contributions for the last few months of service may or may not have been credited into your account till date of settlement with you. Transfers from other EPFO accounts may not have taken place. This happens often too. This amount would also then flow into your account, and linger there, earning interest • The EPFO itself may have declared bonus interest earned for some financial year period, before or after withdrawal, which also would then flow into your EPFO account Viewed dispassionately, and taking into account the manual calculations of the “least loss to EPFO” sort, it is not surprising that there are varying sums of money in EPFO accounts that by rights have had claimants already go through ‘settlements’. As of now, they continue to also earn interest and in all likelihood also remain tax-free on principal and interest earned. The interest earning element will discontinue if there has been no fresh contribution for three years. If you are, or have been, an EPFO claimant, or are a direct heir/nominee of an EPFO claimant, what do you need to do? If you do not have the EPFO account number of the claimant, file a Right to Information (RTI) query to the EPFO office, with as much detail as you can. Simultaneously, also approach the employers where the person worked, for details Armed with these details, file a second RTI on the relevant EPFO office seeking current balance in both Provident Fund as well as Pension accounts. Ask the EPFO to provide you with certified copies of this information Once you discover that there is indeed some amount of money still lying in your EPFO account, file a claim form Currently, the EPFO, in its wisdom, does not have a specific form for this sort of a secondary claim. It has been suggested by ex-employees that you file the relevant Form 19 (if the contributor is alive) or Form 20 (if contributor is deceased/incapable) and enclose a copy of the information on balance received by RTI application, along with a simple letter explaining why this is being claimed again. If the relevant EPFO office rejects the claim, then file it on the EPFO HQ by registered post and follow up using a judicious mix of the public grievance portal (:: Grievance Redress Mechanism in Government ::) as well as an RTI query. Good luck.
amitabha_roy posted a question in Ask for Non RTI SupportHi, My previous employer had submitted PF Withdrawal Form with Wrong PF Account Number(MH/BAN/45338/1796) on 02.06.2011 and the status is "UNDER PROCESS". As per their suggestion I have filled another PF Withdrawal Form with Correct PF Account Number(MH/BAN/45338/1796) on 29.12.2011 and the status is "REJECTED". Please suggest what to do. Many thanks.
Dears, In my old office they deducted my P.F from 2005-2006 to 2009-2010 but they alloted me a P.F account Number that was already sattled with another. When I saw I objected and they will give application to EPF with Form Number 3A and 6A revised I have copy of that letter with receipt of EPF Department on dated 3.8.2010. But I have not find till date from EPF any letter or proof, so that I can know to my account number is changed or not. i have requested many time on the firstname.lastname@example.org but I have not received any reply. Please help me.
Hello, I recently joined in a new company after working for 9 years in one MNC. My Earlier company PF account is transferred to my current company. Due to unavoidable circumstances I need to quit the current company after working for 7 months. Now can I withdraw my whole PF amount though the new company did not give me my relieving letter. Or I am not eligible for the withdrawal of my PF amount, unless I get official relieving from the new company. Regards, KM