contraactors 0 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Hello, can a person who was the director of the company till 2009 get the copy of the Income Tax Return filed by the company ,from the department , for his personal use. The copy of the return is required for the year 2005-2006 when he was a director. Does this fall under exemptions? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
0 Moderators Sunil Ahya 783 Posted January 28, 2015 Moderators Share Posted January 28, 2015 > There is no harm in filing a RTI application, simply file one and find out for yourself. Let the PIO respond to the RTI application (please note that you may have to wait for 35 to 40 days to receive a response from the PIO). Once you receive the response from the PIO, come back to the forum and the members will guide you further. > Kindly refer to the following links: Guide to drafting a good RTI application. RTI Act offers three levels to obtain a required information. Flow of a RTI application, once having been filed. Time limits under which I will get the information. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
0 Super Moderator RAVEENA_O 529 Posted January 28, 2015 Super Moderator Share Posted January 28, 2015 Also please go through para 31 onwards of the judgment of Delhi High Court in Escort's case. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
0 Moderators Sunil Ahya 783 Posted January 28, 2015 Moderators Share Posted January 28, 2015 > Please be aware that the facts of each case are different (i.e. in your particular case you were the director of the company until 2009 and that you are seeking a copy of ITR for the year 2005-06 when you were a director with the company at that point in time) and as such the afore-mentioned court judgment may not be directly applicable to the facts of your case. > Kindly do not worry about the exemptions at the stage of filing a RTI application, as reasoned below: As per section 7(1): A PIO is supposed to either provide the information on payment of such fee as may be prescribed or reject the request for any of the reasons specified in sections 8 and 9. As per section 19(5): In any appeal proceedings, the onus to prove that a denial of a request was justified shall be on the PIO who denied the request. And furthermore as per section 6(2): An applicant making request for information shall not be required to give any reason for requesting the information or any other personal details except those that may be necessary for contacting him. Therefore given the provisions of section 7(1) read with section 19(5) and further read with section6(2): The onus i.e. the burden of proof, for either providing or not providing the information is on the PIO who approves or declines a request for information, and, The onus is not on any RTI applicant to justify or give reasons for having sought an information, irrespective of whether such information is disclosable or exempt under RTI Act. Thus, for the above given reasons, you as a RTI applicant need worry about exemptions, at the stage of filing a RTI application itself. Kindly go ahead, file a RTI application and seek all the information that you may require, let the PIO decide as to whether the information is disclosable or exempt under RTI Act and reply accordingly, study the PIO's reply and if you are not satisfied with the PIO's response, you are always at the liberty to file a first appeal against a PIO's such a decision. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
0 Prasad GLN 1,761 Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 You are an affected party. Invariably mention in Applicant name: Name and later designation of director within brackets year. The standard reply you can expect from them is records not available. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
0 contraactors 0 Posted February 7, 2015 Author Share Posted February 7, 2015 The CPIO has on the pretext of Section 8, refused the copy stating it to be third party. Now should he go to CIC , if yes can some one refer to me such citation , if possible? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
0 Moderators Sunil Ahya 783 Posted February 7, 2015 Moderators Share Posted February 7, 2015 Please refer to the following links: RTI Act offers three levels to obtain a required information. Flow of a RTI application, once having been filed. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
0 CTFORGK2 0 Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 He is/was a director at that time is no matter . In rti is your asked DOCUMENT AVAILABLE FOR CITIZENS ? IF NO then pio is right . Director should have deserved doc ON POST officially not by rti as director so was as equal as company board . So what is your basic argument why asked info is not in exemption ? Only because he was director ? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
0 contraactors 0 Posted February 7, 2015 Author Share Posted February 7, 2015 The application was from the director himself and the copy of the balance sheet is required for himself and not for citizens. My question is if the man who was a part of ownership can get his own details or not to know what were his financial standings at the time of his directorship. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
0 CTFORGK2 0 Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 A person / accountant who filed return is OWNER in eyes of i.t. dept. Else all THIRD PARTY . if submitter will ask I think its not third party. Else all even director all nothing for it dept. I think so . If sign of submitter are in rti case raises . But alone director - as you wish. I think it dept will not check who why when runs company but will check who signed-submitted it & which NAME SIGN DEMANDING ? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
0 Moderators jps50 1,580 Posted February 7, 2015 Moderators Share Posted February 7, 2015 Please file first appeal and specially mention that you were director in the year for which information is being sought. Please also refer: Third party rights: http://www.rtiindia.org/forum/blogs/jps50/292-rights-third-party-under-rti-act.html https://app.box.com/s/ag9eipw3b3dzz5ok1co9 Third party info denied? http://www.rtiindia.org/forum/blogs/jps50/2221-third-party-information-denied-under-rti.html https://app.box.com/s/ujbv7o1to6h2fjb4l0p6 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
0 contraactors 0 Posted February 8, 2015 Author Share Posted February 8, 2015 This was written in the application still on the pretext of third party cpio has denied.The applicant has to submit the same in an upcoming legal case in high court. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
0 Prasad GLN 1,761 Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Immediately file first appeal and state that A director/partner is not a third party and inform that the information is urgently required for a litigation evidence. Let RTI case take it's own course, meed IT commissioner immediately, he is having the discretion to permit any information available on record to a third party. Contact your Auditor/advocate and directly meet him and file a Grievance Petition. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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can a person who was the director of the company till 2009 get the copy of the Income Tax Return filed by the company ,from the department ,
for his personal use.
The copy of the return is required for the year 2005-2006 when he was a director.
Does this fall under exemptions?
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