DoPT seeking public suggestion on supply of information to applicants

[akhilesh yadav]

Read here: http://ccis.nic.in/WriteReadData/CircularPortal/D2/D02rti/10-1-2013-IR.pdf

[Prasad GLN]

I am surprised. Is it such a big thing that can be implemented only after receiving suggestions (from Public on procedure to be followed by Public Authority ), that also after 9 years of enactment ?

Are not there more burning issues as a whole to be looked into, inviting suggestions ?

[jps50]

I have sent suggestion as per attachment.

CPIO REPLY FOMAT SUGGN 260315.pdf

[digal]

Instead, DoPT should experiment on how to run a train without an engine!

 

What is the use of all these improvements, if CPIO disregards everything?

 

Without Ch IC, CPIOs have become more heedless.

[RAVEENA_O]

In addition to what was suggested by jps50, I have two more points to add.

 

Whenver, RTI Applications are transferred u/s 6(3), the transferee PIO often do not respond within 30 days of receipt of application at his end. The appellant in such cases may be at a loss to undrstand as to whom to submit First Appeal. In all the cases, the transfer is done to another PIO and therefore, it would be necessary to know the name of FAA also. If he submit first appeal to the FAA of previous PIO, it will again transferred. Thus, 4 to 5 months are wasted in transfering between PIOs and FAAs. Mostly, such transfers are done only to deny information. In many cases, such transfers are done only to evade responsibility and / or internal fued. In order to avoid such a situation it would be necessary to modify item No. 3 as underr:

 

3. In case the information pertains to other public authority and the application is transferred under section 6 (3) of the RTI Act, details of the public authority to whom the application is transferred and the name, designation and postal address of the First Appellate Authority of transfree PIO should be given.

In addition, the official whose assistance sought by PIO, often being the custodian of information deny disclosure of information, but remain behind the scene, well protected by higher ups and the CPIO become a vicitm before applicant and IC. In order to avoid such a situation and attach direct responsibility to deemed PIO whose assistance is sought, it would be necessary to add item No.1A below item no.1 as under:

 

1A. Name, designation and office addresses of Officer(s) whose assistance has been sought by PIO under section 5(4) r/w 5(6) of the Act.

[Mahesh Chanderbhan Khanna]

I agree that there has to be detailed reasons by CPIO while quoting Sec 7 ( 9 ) or any other sections while denying the information. The CPIO of Reserve bank never complies with Sec 11 (1) of the RTI act while denying the information as third party information.

It has denied the information regarding official mobile no., e mail id's of Executive directors Deputy governors who are also Central Board Directors, though the mobile instrument/internet facilities along with lap tops& Desk tops are provided by RBI and also the bills are paid by RBI. The officials are Public authority, yet the CPIO on his own has decided the information to be a third party information. Every Central board meeting they are paid a fees of Rs. 10,000/- and Rs 1000/- for misc. expenses.

Most of the information is denied on the grounds of Sec 7 (9) eg. transfer policies of the officers who continue for more then 5 years.

They do not have any policy as to how many years officers can continue in one department.

[madhulotheti]

Respected Shah sir,

 

Gone through your very good suggestions.

 

In fact, I lately observed that many PIOs', are responding to the RTI Applications only after completion of mandated period : 30 days (u/s. 7[1] ). Funny thing is sir, even after failing to respond within the time period, the very PIOs', instead of furnishing information on free of cost (u/s. 7[6]), are asking to pay additional fees, etc.

 

Therefore, I personally feel that some thing should be done in this regard:

 

My suggestions:

 

a. While furnishing the information, the PIO should invariably state in his reply that he is responding to the RTI Application in question within the prescribed/mandated period of 30 days.

 

b. If the PIO fails to comply to the section 7(1) of the RTI Act (to furnish the reply within 30 days), he himself should mention the same in his reply by giving the reasons for the delay and also he must furnish the said information on free of charges u/s. 7(6) of the RTI Act.

 

Please comment on this sir,

 

With regards,

Madhu

[Saurabhdua]

सूचना का अधिकार अपने --"Rest in Peace" चरण से गुज़र रहा है। पिछले दिनों CIC ने अपने हाथ खड़े कर दिए, जब सभी राजनीतिक पार्टियों ने ठेंगा दिखा दिया था। इस देश में अब 3rd Riche की स्थापना होनी चाहिए। हर सरकारी डिपार्टमेंट का CPIO, "No Information is available" करके आम जनता को ठेंगा दिखा देता हैं। इस देश का भविष्य गर्त मे ही जान पड़ता है। आईए सब मिलके RTI को अभी से ही श्रद्धांजली देना प्रारंभ करें। धन्यवाद॥

[karira]

सूचना का अधिकार अपने --"Rest in Peace" चरण से गुज़र रहा है। पिछले दिनों CIC ने अपने हाथ खड़े कर दिए, जब सभी राजनीतिक पार्टियों ने ठेंगा दिखा दिया था। इस देश में अब 3rd Riche की स्थापना होनी चाहिए। हर सरकारी डिपार्टमेंट का CPIO, "No Information is available" करके आम जनता को ठेंगा दिखा देता हैं। इस देश का भविष्य गर्त मे ही जान पड़ता है। आईए सब मिलके RTI को अभी से ही श्रद्धांजली देना प्रारंभ करें। धन्यवाद॥

 

"Rest in Peace" charan is over.

 

Only thing left is to get 4 volunteers, chant "Raam Naam Satya Hai" and take it for cremation !

[jps50]

Some one from or nearby Delhi should move Delhi High Court for non-appointment of CIC. In Gujarat activists [like late Amit Jethwa and Shri Praful Desai of Vadodara] had to move Gujarat High Court twice or thrice since 2009 even for getting additional ICs posted due to huge pendency of appeals/complaints. This has to be replicated in Delhi. No point in just crying. We get the govt we deserve. I doubt if any one has filed RTI to know status of appointment of CIC. I will be doing it in a day or two.

[RAVEENA_O]

Then, what is the responsibility of the Government, which has a duty to ensure appointment of CIC? Is this the government we deserve? The Government is not doing its boundan duty as expected from a democratic institution. If the Govt is not in a position to appoint CIC in all these period, what does it mean? If this is the case just for appointment of a CIC, which is in public knowledge, you can imagine about day to day affairs of the Govt.

 

The precedence of Gujarat only indicates the attitude of leadership existed then?

[MANOJ B. PATEL]

I can not understand why they are asking for public suggestion? I am sure all suggestions received from public will be in dustbin.

[digal]

@jps50 Sir,

I doubt if any one has filed RTI to know status of appointment of CIC. I will be doing it in a day or two.

 

Many of us including Former Ch IC Wajahat Habibullah & IC Shailesh Gandhi had filed to know the status of the appointment. NCPRI launches ‘Use RTI to Save RTI’ campaign | Indian Ahead

Not only that, many of us including me have petitioned with more than 17000 signatures. http://www.rtiindia.org/forum/130717-attention-prime-minister-post327522.html#post327522

 

I (at least twice )and many more have directly written to PM through his portal.

 

I too have raised the issue through mygov.in

 

The fight continues......

 

 

R K Mishra

[digal]

...

 

in continuance to fight regarding appointment of Ch IC, today Delhi High Court asked ASG to apprise the court on Thursday.

 

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