Indian Bank Association (IBA) asked to clarify if it is a PA

[karira 5,896]

On 28 January 2008, the CIC asked IBA to study the matter and establish if IBA is a Public Authority as defined in the RTI Act 2005.

 

Full decision of the CIC is attached.

Decision_28012008_06.pdf

[karira 5,896]

The CIC has decided that IBA is not a Public Authority as defined in the RTI Act.

 

http://cic.gov.in/CIC-Orders/PB-06082008-10.pdf

 

With reference to the decision of this Commission dated 30.1.2008 in relation to the application of the appellant dated 21.3.2007 seeking information from Indian Banks Association, I had reserved the decision as to whether Indian Banks Association is a public authority or not with the direction to IBA to furnish various information, like the nature of the organization, how the same was being funded, the composition of its membership and its mandate for settling disputes and entering into agreement with workers etc. Accordingly, IBA has furnished certain information, like, annual report etc. From the details furnished, I find that IBA is a voluntary association of Banks. Its membership comprises of 150 member banks- public and private sector banks, foreign banks, financial institutions and cooperative banks. Only 28 out of 150 members, are public sector banks.. The entire expenses of IBA are found to be proportionally borne by the members. Even the members of the Management Committee are found to be elected representatives of the Member banks. It is also seen that on the basis of the authority given by the member banks, IBA negotiates with employee organization on behalf of the banks. Thus, I find that the Association is neither substantially funded by the government nor it is under the control of the government. Therefore, I find that IBA does not fall within the definition of a public authority as defined in Section 2(h) of the RTI Act and accordingly I hold that IBA is not a public authority.

Let a copy of this decision be sent to the appellant and CPIO

[sandeepbaheti 106]

Let a copy of this decision be sent to the appellant and CPIO

 

If IBA is not a PA, where is the question of giving a copy of the order to CPIO? Shows the use of copy-paste in decisions.

[karira 5,896]

If IBA is not a PA, where is the question of giving a copy of the order to CPIO? Shows the use of copy-paste in decisions.

 

Or, no one reading even the final order before release !

[mjsmurthy 4]

If IBA is not a Public Authority, why IBA before deciding abouit the wage settlement in the bi-partite agreements on wage negotiation, or any major decisions concerned with Banking industry, refer the matter to Finance Ministry? Are they obliged to finance ministry before signing the agreement, they have to discuss with the Govt.

The basic question that comes is what is the stake of Public sector banks compared to all the private sector banks put together. Th total business of all the public sector Banks put together is much higher than 50% of the total banking industry in the country. It is only because IBA is formed to have a collective thinking and dialogue with unions, decisions regarding various matters connected to banking sector, all private sector banks also feel that they are also benefited by a common approach through IBA. There is nothing wrong if the private sector banks also contribute to the pool of IBA for administrative purpose. Apart from this all the decisions taken by IBA have a direct impact on the economy and public welfare. Hence I am of the opinion it falls under Public Authority.

[nimeshdave 0]

To the best of my knowledge and belief, the IBA is Public Authority.

It should be decided on following points.

 

1. How much percentage of funds contribution made available to IBA by

Public Sector Banks of India ?

 

2. All organisations / associations run with the help of Government Fund

are covered under the purview of RTI Act.

 

3. All major public sector banks are controlled by Government of India.

 

4. On many occassion the IBA had sought government's approval on

issues related with the banking industry in India.

 

5. Even during and after the wage revision talks IBA seek approval from

ministry of finance.

 

6. More important question is " Whether IBA is registered body under any

act or not ?

[karira 5,896]

Nimesh,

 

Why don't you file a RTI application with IBA and then take up the matter in the CIC ?

[Naavi 1]

I have sought information from IBA about who is its CPIO and whether they are under RTI act. On receipt of reply which may be in the negative, I will see if the query can be processed further.

 

What we need to ascertain is how many of the members of IBA are themselves a PA. If they fund the activities of IBA proportionately, then why they should not be considered as majority stake holders?.

 

Naavi of naavi.org

 

Nimesh,

 

Why don't you file a RTI application with IBA and then take up the matter in the CIC ?

[Abdul Kader Kutty 0]

Indian banks assosciation is declared as not a public authority.whre as it is wholly or substantially financed by public sector banks owned by govt.then how can iba claim that it is not a public authority.is there any way to establish that iba is a public authority by virtue of it being substantally funded by govt owned banks.if there is a way please inform how to proceed.

[karira 5,896]

Indian banks assosciation is declared as not a public authority.whre as it is wholly or substantially financed by public sector banks owned by govt.then how can iba claim that it is not a public authority.is there any way to establish that iba is a public authority by virtue of it being substantally funded by govt owned banks.if there is a way please inform how to proceed.

 

Your post has been merged with another thread on the same subject/topic. Please read the full thread above - specially post # 6.

 

Please also read some of the threads in the following search results: http://www.google.co.in/search?rlz=1C1SKPC_enIN341IN351&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=iba+site%3Awww.rtiindia.org

[Abdul Kader Kutty 0]

Has CIC already decided that the IBA is not a PA?.If so what is the next step to do in the matter.

[karira 5,896]

Yes, it has. Once again request you to please read the full thread above. Extracts from the CIC decision are given in post # 2 above.

 

The next step is as indicated in post # 7. Get the application rejected and then file a direct Complaint under Sec 18, with the CIC. Prepare your case well as to why IBA should be a public authority as defined in Sec 2(h) of the RTI Act.

[karira 5,896]

Please also read:

 

https://www.rtiindia.org/forum/185818-cic-declares-iba-public-authority-once-again.html

[Prasad GLN 1,761]

As many of us are not knowing the actual functioning of IBA, IBA is taking it granted to claim such exemptions.

It is a spokes person for entire Banking Industry.  Most of the private banks have withdrawn their membership as the wages in private sector bank are more lucrative and they vary the settlements and they have their own set of rules in promoting business.

Infact IBA enjoys patronage of public sector banks and their stake is more in IBA .  It is like America in UNO.

[koteswararaonerella 8]

BANKSARE THE wiorst voilators of RTIAct as they NEVWER REPLY to any querry though it is a plain one Ex Ask Bank as to how many MUDRA LOANS OF PM NOTIFED ARE GIVEN IN YOUR BRANCH -REPLY COMES CONFIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL AND NOT DISCLOSABLE .HERE ALSO FOR IBA THEY INVENT SOME EXCUASE THOUGH IT IAS DOING WHAT PSC DOING FOR GOVT JOBS