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  1. 1. Should Universities and Boards disclose evaluated answer scripts

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smbhappy
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in my view answer books need to be disclosed - not to every one but only the concerned individual.

otherwise, the whole sanctity of the examination system will go. on the other hand, if it is not disclosed to the affected person, his whole future will be affected. who will compensate him for the loss?

 

How? Student had done his part of duty. Examiner has his part of duty. The result is out. What is the harm if the answer sheets are disclosed?

 

The examination of the answer sheet is a big business. I know teachers/Lecturers earning thousands of tax free rupees out of this, even more that their salaries. They want to check more and more sheets in minimum time to earn as mush as they can in the minimum possible time. It does not matter for a poor or average student. But for the bright and brilliant ones, it is like spoiling their career. It is a unholy business. It should be stopped. The things should be out and open.

 

My suggestion is that University has already taken the examination fee, which include all the expenses from conducting the examination till declaration of results and the issue of certificates. The evaluated answer sheets must be returned to the students. It give a chance to students and their parents to evaluate their performance. otherwise also the answer sheets are sold as waste paper. University or the examiners should not have any fear if they have done their duty properly. Any mistake can be brought to the notice of the University for correction.

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mukesh kr

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A great effort, Ravina to bring forth the issue on this forum. It is a serious matter which attracts attention. I am of the view that this should be open information

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sharmajee

I came across 2 incidents of engineering college in Rajasthan. In professional colleges students can't dare raise their voice against there faculty as they may ruin their future in internals.

 

Incident 1: Topper student got 6 marks in one subject and highest marks in college in rest all subjects. When she raised voice she was made to sit quite and discouraged for applying for re evaluation. But her dad had a pull. With the help of his dad's connection she could get her answer sheet seen and found actual marks were 68 but only 6 was printed on mark sheet.

 

Incident 2: Result of one paper for another bright student is shown withheld by college saying his copy is lost.

 

Imagine if they are our brothers or sisters......

 

In my view, in coming time, all professional exams should have 1+1 sheet. After exam is over 1 copy may be taken home by student. This will be particularly useful where only objective type questions are there. So student may check their marks with key published at the time of declaration of result.

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RAVEENA_O

There is another issue - a bright student with correct answers may get less marks than an influential not-so-bright with not-so-good answers. The very reason that both answer papers are comparable and subject to scrutiny by disclosure would create a sense of responsibility in the minds of evaluator. This would introduce more transparency in evaluation system itself. Universal disclosure would be more advantageous.

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P.Suresh

I am a victim of this. Had this law existed at my student times, my life, career itself would have been wayward, wayward............ wayward different.

 

RTI is a must in U'ty answer scripts.

Due regard to good teachers. But, truth should not be hidden. Many so called TEAchers are cheatERS, emp-LO-yees after all and nothing beyond. One has to save oneself and perhaps expose cheats.

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RAVEENA_O

IC Rajasthan's decision for disclosure of Answer Sheet is available in this link: http://www.rtiindia.org/forum/77140-new-turn-my-case-rajasthan-information-comission-favour-studnets.html

 

Please down load the font from the link in body of post#1 and install it in your font directory and then read the attachment.

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smbhappy

This will come handy for many information seekers.

 

This will also put an onus on the Universities and others to be fair in marking the answer sheets and the this will bring about the quality in the work of the examiners.

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manoj kamra

In the light of SC decision on yesterday, this matter has come to end now.SC have upheld the decision of DB of HC kolkata.

Now our RTI has been futher strenghened.

http://www.hrln.org/hrln/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=691:sc-allows-disclosure-of-evaluated-answer-sheets-to-examinee-under-rti&catid=164:pils-a-cases&Itemid=283

Although original copy of decision is awaited but news of above url will verify this decision.

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advocate rajesh

SC has delivered avery important judgement which will benifit all those who belive in hard work somewhere are effected because of bad system. Thanks to SC .

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dr.s.malhotra

It is 6th year of RTI Act . Now is the time when RTI cases , after 2nd round at High Courts , will start pouring at SC and we may witness some similar path-breaking rulings from Hon'ble SC .

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smbhappy

We need to go to HC against the SICP ruling on Section 18 vs Section 19 in CC-461 of 2011 Kesar Singh vs High Court. a couple of people are ready.

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RAVEENA_O
It is 6th year of RTI Act . Now is the time when RTI cases , after 2nd round at High Courts , will start pouring at SC and we may witness some similar path-breaking rulings from Hon'ble SC .

 

A paragraph from the Kerala High Court's Judgment on the subject:

 

I can't resist the temptation to quote an eloquent paragraph from the judgment of the learned single judge (Sanjib Banerjee, J), (a copy of which has been supplied by the learned Standing Counsel for the State Information Commission), which led to the Division Bench decision in Pritam Rooj's case (supra), dealing with the contentions on the basis of the decision of the Supreme Court in Parithosh Bhupeshkumar's case (supra) itself, which reads thus:

 

"77. Judicial discipline demands deference to precedents not

only of the hierarchical superior but also of a forum of coordinate

jurisdiction but it does not command a fawning obeisance on the

deification of any precedent. As society progresses and aspirations

rise, it shakes off the shackles that it invented in its infancy or

adolescence. Marvels of yesterday become relics of today. If the

Central Information Commission can rightfully aspire for a day

when answer scripts would accompany the mark sheets, that there

would be no facility for it today would not lead to the natural words

and import of the said Act to be constricted by any concern for the

immediate hardship and inconvenience. The umbra of exemptions

must be kept confined to the specific provisions in that regard and

no penumbra of a further body of exceptions may be conjured up by

any strained device of construction. In a constitutional democracy,

every limb and digit of governance is ultimately answerable to the

governed."

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horizonrays

i cannot really find the judgement given by sc on the sc website ? can some body tell me where to get the exact judgement given by supreme court ,

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IN THE SUPREME COURT OF INDIA

CIVIL APPELALTE JURISDICTION

CIVIL APPEAL NO.6454 OF 2011

[Arising out of SLP [C] No.7526/2009]

Central Board of Secondary Education & Anr. … Appellants

Vs.

Aditya Bandopadhyay & Ors. … Respondents

 

 

Full judgement at:

http://www.judis.nic.in/supremecourt/helddis3.aspx

 

Cases covered:

 

CA No. 6456 of 2011 [@ SLP © No.9755 of 2009 - WEST BENGAL BOARD OF SEC.EDUN.& ORS Vs. CHIEF INFOR.COMMR.W.B.INFORMN.COMMN.&ORS ]

 

 

CA Nos.6457-6458 of 2011 (@ SLP © Nos.11162-11163 of 2009: W.BENGAL BOARD OF SEC.EDUCATION & ORS. XVI Vs. STATE CHIEF INF.COMMR. WEST BENGAL&ORS. )

 

CA No.6461 of 2011 (@ SLP © No.11670 of 2009- UNIVERSITY OF CALCUTTA & ORS. Vs. PRITAM ROOJ & ANR.

 

CA Nos.6462 of 2011 (@ SLP © No.13673 of 2009: WEST BENGAL COUNL.OF HIG.SEC.EDU.& ANR. Vs. PRITAM ROOJ & ORS)

 

CA Nos.6464 of 2011 (@ SLP © No.17409 of 2009: CHAIRMAN,W.B. CENT.SCHOOL SERV.COMMN Vs. PRITAM ROOJ & ORS.

 

 

CA Nos. 6459 of 2011 (@ SLP © No.9776 of 2010 : INST.OF CHARTERED ACCOUNTANTS OF INDIA )

 

CA Nos.6465-6468 of 2011 (@ SLP © Nos.30858-30861 of 2009: ASSAM PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION & ORS. Vs. HAMEN BHARALI & ORS)

 

 

Source:

http://causelists.nic.in/scnew/otues/sl.html

 

Thus it covers exams conducted by CBSE, STATE BOARDS, UNIVERSITIES, PROFESSIONAL BODIES, PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSIONS. It is doubtful if it can be applied to departmental promotion exams, though ratio can be reasonably extended to such exams/tests.

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dr.s.malhotra
It is doubtful if it can be applied to departmental promotion exams, though ratio can be reasonably extended to such exams/tests.

 

 

the intention behind the judgment reads that it is applicable to answer sheets where-ever the same are generated and are retained during the period when RTI application is made .

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smbhappy

This SC Judgement will open a Pandora box and lakhs of people sufferer at the hands of Universities, institutions, departmental and competitive exams will come under scanner. These all are bound to be flooded with the RTI queries and their regular operation is going to be under pressure.

 

This will also bring about a quality consciousness in their examination of the answer books and the favoritism will be the thing of past.

 

The system will improve and corruption will take a back seat.

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I feel that the judgment will be reversed, in case the Exams are not conducted in objective type questions. The rush of RTI application will not keep the authorities at rest and almost every one and another candidate will like to see his as well as some one else answer sheets to compare. How long the request of millions of candidates of different educational institutions can be coped up.

The Information Commissions will be also floded with only complaints/appeals of this subject only.

On other hand, Practically transparancy is also essebntial and desired.

so the way out is that all the answer sheets be marked and returned to the candidates back. (THE ONLY PRACTICLE SOLUTION)

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RAVEENA_O

IT CANNOT BE. Universities and Boards of Maharashtra are already disclosing answer sheets and there is no chaos. When the system is in vogue successfully in some part of our country, why should it face difficulty for rest of India? It is pertinent to note that the judiciary had rightly cosidered the social impact of the issue involved when it reiterated the observation :

As society progresses and aspirations rise, it shakes off the shackles that it invented in its infancy or adolescence. Marvels of yesterday become relics of today.

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smbhappy

This SC judgment is a direct insight into the secrete domain of the Universities and alike and they can hardly see it collapsing so easily like a castle of cards. Their ego will prevent the disclosure under e, g or j of section 8(1). Unless Universities amend their calendar, the situation is volatile.

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Yes, very recruitment of teachers, lecturers are wrong. Many so called OFFishers who pretend to be honest have all cheated their own batch mates, society in their own times. An experienced person that I am have no hesitation to declare that the very governMINT mechanism is wrong. Almost 99% of pErmanents, even police get jobs, promotions, seniority etc because of some innovation or other or other and not through honest means. This RTI is a right step. Evaluators, evaluation, selection has to be questioned, punished if found guilty. RTI has to enable that.

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horizonrays

hello friends , i have a question to ask , since supreme court in it's judgement allowed students to have their answer sheet ,

i would like to ask you people can a student question university authority , on what basis student was failed in a subject ?

for example student gave exam and he is pass in 4 out of 5 paper and he is sure he is written correctly and cannot fail , what should be done in this case , apart from asking the answer sheet ?

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i would like to ask you people can a student question university authority , on what basis student was failed in a subject ?

 

No. RTI is not for questioning actions of Authority but to get INFORMATION only which is present in records .

After having seen your answer-sheets , you may decide whether marking has been fair or not and if need be , you may apply for re-evaluation , or even go to the court .

If you think failure on account of being fail 4 out of 5 subjects , is illegal then you can apply for copy of Rules from Education board or university as the case may be and then find if the action is proper or not . Then you can challenge the order in court if it is illegal .

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hello friends , i have a question to ask , since supreme court in it's judgement allowed students to have their answer sheet , ......

 

I may correct you that Supreme Court has not allowed the student (or any other examinee) to have their answer-sheets. Supreme Court has only allowed the inspection of the Answer-sheets..

 

Today I appeared in a case before the Chief Information Commission Punjab on behalf of a Complainant who had appeared in the Qualifying Exam for the selection of Law Officers, conducted by the Punjab & Haryana High Court. The copies of the were requested which were denied by the PIO of High Court.

 

PIO in reply has offered to allow the complainant inspect the evaluated answer sheets. While this offer was accepted, it was requested to the Commission that in view of the Hon’ble Supreme Court Decision in CIVIL APPEAL NO.6454 OF 2011 [Arising out of SLP [C] No.7526/2009] delivered on 09 August 2011, The inspection of evaluated answer-sheets may please be allowed under Section 2(j)(i) and Section 2(j)(ii) read with the explanation to Section 4(4) and Section 18(3)(b) of the Right to Information Act 2005, as per provision of Section 7(6) of the act ibid. It is prayed that directions to this effect may please be issued to the PIO.

 

While commission relegated the matter to the PIO for arranging the inspection within 3 weeks, Commission verbally advised that you may go and inspect the evaluated answer-sheets, and make a request under Section 2(j)(ii) and if it is denied come back to the commission by way of an appeal.

 

Order of the commission is as under:

 

STATE INFORMATION COMMISSION, PUNJAB

SCO No. 84-85, Sector 17-C, CHANDIGARH.

(http://www.infocommpunjab.com)

 

Shri Nachhattar Singh s/o Shri Gurmail Singh,

R/o 76-D, Ranjit Nagar, Patiala-147002. -------------Complainant.

Vs.

The Public Information Officer

o/o the Punjab and Haryana High Court,

Chandigarh. -------------Respondent.

 

CC No. 859 of 2011

 

Present:- Shri S.M. Bhanot on behalf of the complainant

Shri Suresh Mahajan, PIO on behalf of the respondent.

 

ORDER

 

Heard the parties.

2. The respondent had filed a written reply raising the objection that the present complainant has not exhausted the remedy of first appeal and he has directly come to the Punjab State Information Commission under Section 18 of the Right to Information Act, 2005. The respondent, during the course of arguments, also relied on the Full Bench judgment of the Commission in CC-461/2011.

3. However, in the written reply, the respondent states that the applicant can be permitted to inspect his own answer-sheets under the Act ibid. In view of this admission of the respondent and the latest judgment of the Hon’ble Supreme Court of India upholding the Double Bench decision of Hon’ble Kolkata High Court pertaining to access to answer-sheets under the Right to Information Act, 2005, the present complainant is relegated to the PIO with the directions that access to his own answer sheets shall be allowed to the information-seeker within three weeks. The respondent shall intimate the date and the name of the concerned official whom the complainant may approach for access to answer-sheets. A copy to this letter shall be sent to the State Information Commission.. It is made clear that in case the information-seeker has any grievenace regarding non-compliance of this order, he is free to move the Commission.

4. With these directions, the case is closed.

 

(R.I. Singh)

August 17, 2011. Chief Information Commissioner

Punjab

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